[gothic-l] Re: Neologisms Dictionary

Fredrik gadrauhts at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Jan 21 14:10:58 UTC 2005


Thanx...

That seems to be a quite good idea, to collect neologisms from 
different persons...


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at o...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Excellent stuff, Fredrik!
> 
> I just looked at the dictionary.  When I have time I'll extract the 
> approximately 20 neologisms from my English-Gothic dictionary for 
> you.  If this is okay with Francisc, it would be good to include 
his 
> creations and make a really big combined effort.  > 
> Llama Nom
> 
> 
> 
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
> > 
> > Llama Nom
> > 
> > I totaly agree with anuþs instead of anuds. And with d in plural 
> and 
> > some cases in singular. The similarity with 'anus' that some 
> > mentioned ain't that shocking. If I remember right that word 
> > means 'ring', and what is shocking about that, (except the 
obvious 
> > reason)?
> > 
> > I read the post 1223 and found that very interesting. A lot of 
> those 
> > words are similar to neologisms I "made" myself.
> > Such words as potato and strawberry are the same as I thought of.
> > I don't think I've seen any word for nut anywhere som guess it 
> would 
> > be like hnutus or something like that, (don't know which gender). 
> To 
> > continue the same way of making the words of potato and stawberry 
> > with the word aírþa- as first part, I'd like to add the word 
> > aírþahnutus as peanut. (swedish: jordnöt = peanut).
> > 
> > About the word for president 1223 had faursitands, and i thought 
> of 
> > faurasitands. Is faur better than faura in this case?
> > 
> > I have a list of neologisms (and some, maybe 5 non neologisms) if 
> > some one is interested. I guess some are not that well done, cos 
I 
> > made em when I wasn't that good at this. But I hope you can tell 
> me 
> > corrections.
> > It's on a website that is:
> > http://www.geocities.com/gutiska/lex/neologism.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > /Fredrik
> > 
> > 
> > --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at o...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Oscar,
> > > 
> > > Ni ibnaleik ak galeik! ("Not equal, but similar", to paraphrase 
> the 
> > > Skeireins...)  Ahaks "pigeon".  Anaks "suddenly".  But alright 
> for 
> > > alliteration, oh dear:
> > > 
> > > Nu skulum namnjan
> > > namna fugle,
> > > anuþ jah ahak,
> > > all þatei fliugiþ,
> > > hrabn hrukjandan,
> > > hraiwadubon,
> > > aran swaswe agatja,
> > > airþabundanana hanan.
> > > Gauros gansuns
> > > goljand sik uhtwon.
> > > Falka sa frija
> > > ufar fulþon galaiþ,
> > > unafswaggwiþs
> > > sweþauh waijiþ.
> > > Sparwan, sparwari
> > > bi spedistin qiþa.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Fredrik,
> > > 
> > > Looks good to me.  I'd wondered about this word ages ago, 
before 
> I 
> > > had access to all these great dictionaries on the internet.  I 
> > can't 
> > > remember what conclusion I reached, if any, but I didn't know 
> about 
> > > the Lithuanian cognate then--which I think is what suggests an 
i-
> > > stem.  Makes a nice addition to our Gothic vocabulary!
> > > 
> > > The normal practice is to change -d to -þ at the end of a word 
> or 
> > > before -s, but sometimes the -d was written as such.  E.g. gods 
> & 
> > > goþs both occur, and by chance the former is actually more 
> common.  
> > > Apparently such spellings are most often found in certain 
> specific 
> > > sections of the Bible, e.g. Luke's gospel.
> > > 
> > > Oh and on the subject of reconstructing vocabulary, you might 
be 
> > > interested in Post 1223, a very early message from Francisc 
> which I 
> > > came across recently.  Especially the ingenious lists of 
> chemical 
> > > and geographical terms.
> > > 
> > > The Cleasby & Vigfusson Icelandic-English Dictionary has some 
> > > interesting comments on Gothic, including at least one probable 
> > loan-
> > > word into Old Spanish, not listed in Koebler: *brano "heifer" 
> > (young 
> > > female cow) = OIc. brana.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And finally, Francisc,
> > > 
> > > Good work on the Crossword!  I've added your guesses.  I hope 
it 
> > > isn't making anyone too cross yet...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Llama Nom
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, OSCAR HERRERA <duke.co at s...> 
> wrote:
> > > > waila,so waurd anaks(pigeons) samaleika ist...
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Fredrik <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi all!
> > > > 
> > > > I don't do much so i think about words in gothic which i 
> cannot 
> > > find 
> > > > in any dicctionary. Now it's the gothic word for duck. I have 
> > > > searched for it in all dicctionaries I know about on internet 
> but 
> > > > without finding any so i took the freedom to recreate it 
> instead.
> > > > I wonder if you think this is ok or if not.
> > > > 
> > > > The word in swedish is 'and' (or in another form 'anka') and 
> the 
> > > > german is 'ente'. Acording to some books and dicctionaries 
> (like 
> > > > runeberg.org) this comes from *anuðiz.
> > > > I guess this would have been 'anuds' in gothic, and an i-stem.
> > > > The icelandic önd and the german ente is both feminine so 
> > > therefore 
> > > > I guess the gothic word also is feminine.
> > > > 
> > > > Comments please!
> > > > 
> > > > /Fredrik
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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