Gothic names

[Michal Cigan]

Zdarvim Ualarauans,
Thanx for your answer, excellent as always...

But I have another, maybe linguistic, puzzle:

1) I herad, that a german (maybe archaic, i dont know exactly) word for Tuesday, parallel to Dienstag, is also "ertag", "eritag", or "erchtag". And from this results (not to me, but to czech-german prof. Karbusicky), that "er", or "erch" is another name form protogerman sky god, for example Tyr - in modern nordic form. What's your opinion?

M.
ualarauans <ualarauans at yahoo.com> wrote:                                  Hi Michal
 
 --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Michal Cigan michalcigan at ... wrote:
 > 
 > thing is little bit more difficult.
 > Slavomar is really archaic, we can say "Czech-Slovak form", even 
 though in
 > modern language it is used modern common slavic -mir (Slavomir). 
 But Jaromar is
 > from norh Germany, Rugen, Arkona..., (even I have no information 
 about its
 > existence in another slavic regions)
 > But maybe Burgundian influence could be the solutions, especially 
 in the "Great
 > Moravian" case of Slavomar.
 
 For the ex-DDR territory being a Slavo-Germanic contact area 
 throughout the early Middle Age I'd suggest that hybrid names could 
 be composed to find recognition both with German and Wendish 
 speaking people. So, Jaromar could contain Slavic jaro- (Czech jaro, 
 Slovak jar "spring"; actually, the same IE word is Go. jer "year"), 
 which, if needed, could be interpreted as OHG ja:r "Jahr" (however, 
 I'm not aware of Germanic names with this element) and German -mar 
 (sounding very much like -mir which the Slavs had already adopted). 
 That is, this name was neither purely Slavic nor purely German, but 
 a kind of linguistic compromise between the two.
 
 Slavomar may have been influenced by (or a partly translation of) 
 OHG Hluodmar, meaning the same, i.e. "known by [his] glory", both 
 Slavic _slava_ and OHG _hluod_ from PIE *kleu- "to hear".
 
 On Germanic-L there's an interesting discussion around the Warnians 
 and their king Radegis whose name = either Go. *Radagais or later 
 Wendish Radegast. In fact, it could be both, I think. Being 
 originally Germanic, the name could later be Slavicized (as well as 
 the ethnonym of Warnians itself). What of its first element, I'd 
 rather disagree with Dirk that
  
 > [T]he slavic name Radegast has nothing to do with Germanic 
 Radagais or
 > Radachis. Slavic 'rada' means 'joy', while Germanic 'rada' refers
 > to 'council [...]
 
 and that
 
 > [I]t is exactly the same name as that of the famous Gothic leader
 > Radagais, who died 406.
 
 cause in this case it should be Go. *Redagais, not *Radagais 
 (Olympiodorus writes RODOGAISOS).
 
 > This is just a coincidental name similarity. What is,
 > however, clear is that the 'Rada-' component was very popular in 
 the
 > Thuringian dynasty (Radegunde, Radegunde, Radagais, Radulf)
 
 Maybe it became popular also because it was understandable to 
 Wendish speaking subjects/neighbors of the Thuringian kingdom?
 
 Ualarauans
 
 
     
                       

 		
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