Reflexives + Position of possessive pronouns

llama_nom 600cell at OE.ECLIPSE.CO.UK
Wed Jan 18 08:34:16 UTC 2006


>> > Here's an example, from Curtius's Greek Grammar, of a reflexive
>> in just such a subordinate clause refering not to the subject of
>> its own clause but to that of the main clause:
>>
>> EISIENAI EKELEUSEN, EI MELLOIS SUN hEAUTW EKPLEIN
>> `he bade you enter if you were going to sail away with him'
>>
>> It would be interesting to see if there are any examples of Gothic
>> contradicting Greek in this respect.

> Je ne comprends plus très bien ; on parlait des pronoms-adjectifs
possessifs réfléchis et non réfléchis, et on traite ici du pronom 
réfléchi
indirect.

I felt that the example was relevent because in Gothic, according to 
Streitberg and Wright, the same rule applies to the possessive 
adjective sein-, as to the accusative, dative and genitive pronouns: 
sik, sis, seina -- namely, that they must refer back to the subject 
of the clause.  But, as we saw, in non-finite embedded clauses, all 
of these types of reflexive pronoun might refer back to the subject 
of the main clause:

jah auk þai frawaurhtans þans frijondans sik frijond
KAI GAR hOI hAMARTWLOI TOUS AGAPWNTAS (?h)AUTOUS AGAPWSIN
`for even the sinners love those who love them'
(L 6,32)

habaid þana stojandan sik
ECEI TON KRINONTA (?h)AUTON
`will have one judging him'
(J 12,48)

jah dugunnun bidjan ina galeiþan hindar markos seinos
KAI HRXANTO PARAKALEIN AUTON APELQEIN APO TWN hORIWN (?h)AUTWN
`and they began to ask him to depart beyond their borders'
(Mk 5,17).

I quoted the example from Curtius's Greek Grammar as another example 
of long-distance reflexivisation (i.e. antecedent in a higher 
clause).

Llama Nom





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