Visigothic identity of Spain

Ingemar Nordgren ingemar at NORDGREN.SE
Sat Oct 21 21:43:34 UTC 2006


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Wolfgang Franz <wolfgang.franz at ...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Ingemar.
> 
> A little article about Wulfila's creed:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wulfila
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wolfgang
>  
> 
> Am Freitag, 20. Oktober 2006 21:10 schrieb Ingemar Nordgren:
> > --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Wolfgang Franz <wolfgang.franz@>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Hails.
> > >
> > > What is written here about Arianism is wrong. The Arians saw Jesus
> >
> > Christ as
> >
> > > the son of God, God by himself. Created before the creation through
> >
> > him the
> >
> > > whole creation is created. Nicaia and Constantinople found that
> >
> > Christ is not
> >
> > > created but procreated as creation can not save itself. For Nikaia
> >
> > God Son
> >
> > > and God Father are of "equal substance", for Arius of "similiar
> >
> > substance".
> >
> > > What you write about Nicaia and Constantinople is in fact more or
> >
> > less the
> >
> > > Arian way of thinking.
> >
> > No Wolfgang, this is only a later developement. Arius and his folks
> > originally meant Jesus was a human but was divined because of a
> > righteous behaviour like a bodisattva. Christ was but an incarnation
> > of God in the shape of Jesus. Jesus was however in an unexplicible way
> > fathered by God through Mary.
> >
> > Best
> > Ingemar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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