[gothic-l] Translating creeds?

Dicentis a roellingua@gmail.com [gothic-l] gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
Thu Jan 1 20:39:14 UTC 2015


 “begotten,” “according to the scriptures,” “as it is written,”  :

I would translate, as it is written as:

Swe meliþ ist

As:  meliþ ist, is attested in several places in the Gothic Bible and swe
simply means: as. I don't know however which form would be appropriate here:

swe meliþ ist
swaswe meliþ ist
swa meliþ ist

I couldn't really find rules about that.

"according to the scriptures", I think that scriptures were simply
translated as: "bokos", some people also translate it as: "weihons bokos"
(the holy books).

According to is simply "bi" in several places, and is accompanied by an
accusative, thus:

Bi bokos
or:
Bi weihona bokos  ( -ona = weak feminine plural declension)



2015-01-01 17:43 GMT+01:00 Marja Erwin marja-e at riseup.net [gothic-l] <
gothic-l at yahoogroups.com>:

> I’m trying my hand at a Gothic translation of the Creed of Constantinople
> of 360.
>
> Anyway, not at all skilled, and working from English and Latin rather than
> Greek, and I’m uncertain about some things:
>
> Galaubjan +du +dative for “believe in” and “credere +in” - the Gospel of
> John seems to use the same construction.
>
> Alwaldands for “almighty” and “omnipotens” - the Gothic and English words
> don’t mean the same thing.
>
> fram þammei ??? sind. for “of whom are all things” and “ex quo sunt omnia”
> - what is the Gothic for everything, should it be in the nominative or
> dative, and should it be before or after the verb?
>
> Aso, I expect trouble translating “begotten,” “according to the
> scriptures,” “as it is written,” etc. At least this one doesn’t involve
> “ousia”!
>
> Any suggestions?
>
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