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<p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
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Hails, Walhahrabn!<br>
<br>
> > 3. There he wanted to play the gold harp - thar wilda ei <br>
> gulthaharpon slahan -<br>
> > I have used the construction "wiljan ei" as it appears in some <br>
> places of > the<br>
> > corpus, meaning "want to".<br>
> <br>
> There's a subordinate clause after ei in such cases, not a mere <br>
> infinitive: *wilda ei slahai... (subjunctive)<wbr>, lit. "he wished that he <br>
> would slay..." (rather than "play":). It's a construction most usual <br>
> with languages which have no morphological infinitive, like some of <br>
> the Balkan language alliance. A Goth would simply say: *wilda <br>
> slahan..., I think.<br>
<br>
The two possibilities are: 'wiljan' (or some other verb of<br>
wishing/commanding/<wbr>needing, etc.) + 'ei' + subjunctive, or 'wiljan' +<br>
infinitive.<br>
<br>
(1) wiljau ei mis gibais ana mesa haubiț Iohannis țis daupjandins.<br>
(2) wileis ei ni ogeis waldufni = QELEIS DE MH FOBEISQAI<br>
(3) ni țaurbum ei iswis meljaima = OU CREIAN ECETE hUMUN GRAFESQAI<br>
<br>
(4) jabai hvas wili afar mis gaggan<br>
<br>
Note especially (2) and (3) where the 'ei' + subjunctive clause in<br>
Gothic translates a Greek infinitive (see Streitber /Stopp 353.2; 312,<br>
Note 2). In (3), an 'ei' clause is used even though the subject is<br>
the same as in the main clause; but I wonder if there are any examples<br>
of this with 'wiljan' specifically, or if an infinitive was prefered<br>
in such circumstances with this particular verb? If we can't find any<br>
examples, the safest option would be to do as you say and use the<br>
infinitive here: 'wilda gulțaharpon slahan', rather than 'wilda ei<br>
gulțaharpon slohi' (preterite subjunctive to match the tense of 'wilda').<br>
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LN<br>
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