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<p>Hails Ingemar,<br>
<br>
The proposal you make of a third possible meaning for Villeman makes it even more interesting :)<br>
It would be nice if we could find a Gothic word/root that in some way could imply the 3 same meanings... but I think that's hard. Is there any Gothic root with that "get lost" meaning and a phonetic structure similar to "wil" ? In that case one could always leave the name as "Wilmanna" and bypass the etymologic problem (or better, undergo it).<br>
<br>
Thanks and regards,<br>
<br>
Rydwlf.<br>
<br>
Ingemar Nordgren <<a href="mailto:ingemar%40nordgren.se">ingemar@nordgren.<wbr>se</a>> wrote:<br>
Hi Rydwlf and Ualarauans,<br>
<br>
Maybe I complicate it for you but there is still another meaning of<br>
'vill'. It can as well mean to 'get lost'in e.g. the wood, 'lose the<br>
track to the goal' and also to be confused et c. In a song is e.g.<br>
written 'i villande skogen' meaning 'in the wood that lures you to go<br>
wrong', confuses your perception. Villeman then could mean somebody<br>
that lost his way either we talk of a real road or just use it as a<br>
metaphor when somebody can't concentrate on reality but instead<br>
fancies et c. An exellent description of a bard fallen in love, heh?<br>
<br>
Don't take this too seriously since I as well dare not say the exact<br>
meaning of the name.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Ingemar<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Rydwlf wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hails Ualarauans,<br>
> <br>
> Thank you for your comments and corrections! It's a nice way to<br>
learn this one :)<br>
> <br>
> >I don't know what the name means in Norwegian, so I'm only guessing. <br>
> >If it's ville "will" + mann "man", then Gothic *Wiljamanna would do. <br>
> >If the first element is from ON villr "wild", then perhaps *Wilțimanna.<br>
> <br>
> Unfortunately, I don't know either what the name means in<br>
Norwegian... I have checked in dictionaries and 'vill' may be "wild,<br>
impetuous, savage". There is even 'villmann' meaning "savage". And<br>
then there is the verb 'ville' meaning "want, want to, will, wish".<br>
Would it be something like "Wild/Brave Man" or on the other hand<br>
"Willing Man"? In the end, one may say that both meanings are related<br>
somehow. Anyway I see that you have considered both possibilities.<br>
I've been looking for some analysis on the song (and the names on it)<br>
on the net but I've found none (at least in English). Until I find<br>
some, or get the opinion from some Norwegian friend, we can leave the<br>
two versions as possible.<br>
> <br>
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