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<p>On 16/03/2007 15:42, Kristin Marie Wall wrote:<br>
> Do you have visigoth information for me? If so, please email me. In <br>
> any event, email me with your skeptical questions so as not to take <br>
> up time from the rest of the group. I have my information from the <br>
> top echelon families in Spain. I'll be indebted to know the sources <br>
> of your skepticism.<br>
<br>
I want to emphasize that my skepticism (and, yes, sarcasm) was _not_ <br>
aimed at you -- but I freely admit it is aimed whoever told about this <br>
mysterious information unknown to "the scholars". I would also like to <br>
emphasize that Gothic issues were never my main area of work, but I do <br>
know a number of people who have worked on late antique and early <br>
medieval Spain, including on Visigothic issues, and my skepticism is <br>
based on my general background and experience, as well as what I've <br>
gleaned about the field from friends and colleagues.<br>
<br>
With regard to the particular issue at hand -- that of private families <br>
(regardless of their echelon) in Spain having genuine information about <br>
Visigothic Spain that is not known to the academic and scholarly world <br>
in general -- I think I will leave it at saying I find it utterly <br>
incredible in every sense of the word. Of course, it's a free internet, <br>
and one can choose to believe what and who one will. But I am <br>
_strongly_ inclined to file information alongside concepts such as <br>
Merovingians being descended from Jesus and Atlanteans building the <br>
pyramids. I'm not a dogmatic knee-jerk kind of guy, though, and I am <br>
entirely open to being proven wrong -- it would not be the first time :) <br>
But I would be _extremely_ surprised and (in the event that there was <br>
genuine new information available to the world) very happy.<br>
<br>
With regards to the topic Visigothic Spain generally, I cannot say much <br>
specific that's of any value since that is, as I note, not my area of <br>
expertise. I can say that I know the subject has always been a <br>
difficult one, and the history of its study is littered with ethnic, <br>
religious, and political issues. (Even during the period of the <br>
Visigothic kings, ethnicity and identity seems to have been fairly fluid <br>
concepts in the Iberian peninsula, thanks to the complicated religious <br>
and political situation.) I fear the best overview of the subject in <br>
English is still E.A. Thompson's, _The Goths in Spain_ -- an excellent <br>
book, just now 40 years or so old. More promisingly, there has been a <br>
lot of interest in ethnicity and identity in late antiquity and the <br>
early medieval period in recent decades, and there's a good deal of <br>
Spanish-language scholarship that appeared in the form of journal <br>
articles and such dealing with such issues regarding various Roman, <br>
Visigothic, and Moorish identities (as well as Basque) around the time <br>
of the Visigothic kings and also effects of relations with the Frankish <br>
polities to the north. If you read Spanish, seeking out recent articles <br>
treating Visigothic identity is probably the best bet. Visigothic Spain <br>
is unquestionably a fascinating field over which there surely much <br>
debate yet to come.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Carl<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Carl Edlund Anderson<br>
mailto:<a href="mailto:cea%40carlaz.com">cea@carlaz.com</a><br>
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