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<p> They even looked on Origen as a Heretic did they not. Was he a disciple <br>
of Arius?<br>
Le<br>
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From: "Michael Erwin" <<a href="mailto:merwin%40btinternet.com">merwin@btinternet.<wbr>com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Re: Arain Christian influence on Islam<br>
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Except that it wasn't the teaching of Arius (or of Wulfila, judging<br>
by his translation and Auxentius' writing). And that Irenaeus,<br>
Origen, Tertullian, etc. wrote before Arius. If they and their<br>
tradition had excluded Arianism, it would not have ever emerged.<br>
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On Mar 31, 2007, at 1:00 AM, Le Bateman wrote:<br>
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> I am just thinking about the similarity in the belief Jesus was<br>
> born of a<br>
> virgin, but not divine. This was the teaching of Arius. All of the<br>
> Church<br>
> fathers including Ireneus, who was the disciple of Polycarp, who is<br>
> said to<br>
> be John The Beloved Disciple. All of them taught that Arianism was a<br>
> heretical sect. Muhammad lived in the 6th Century, and died at the<br>
> time<br>
> that Redwald King of East Anglia died in 632 A.D. So he would have<br>
> encountered the Monks who live in the Sinai.<br>
> They have a monastery on Mount Sinia. Or somewhere on the Sinai or<br>
> Arabian<br>
> Peninsula. I am thinking of the Greek Orthodox monks. I also<br>
> believe the<br>
> Coptic Christians of Egypt were around as well. So they were<br>
> around. It is<br>
> possible he did come incontact with him. The Quran does call these<br>
> and the<br>
> Jews Unbelievers. So he was aware of them. I will have to reread<br>
> the Quran.<br>
> Le<br>
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