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<p>Lamin awiliuŝ!<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "llama_nom" <600cell@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> <br>
> Hails, Walhahrafn!<br>
> <br>
> We live and learn! I just came across this verse in which 'af'<br>
> translates hUPO, just as you did:<br>
> <br>
> ni gajiukaizau af unŝiuŝa, ak gajiukais [af] ŝiuŝa unŝiuŝ.<br>
> Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.<br>
> MH NIKW hUPO TOU KAKOU, ALLA NIKA EN TWi AGAQWi TO KAKON<br>
> R 12:21<br>
> <br>
> (The 2nd 'af' presumably an accidental addition.)<br>
> <br>
> LN<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "llama_nom" <600cell@> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > <br>
> > Hails, Walhahrabn!<br>
> > <br>
> > Looks convincing. Just one thing comes to mind: I would suggest<br>
> > 'fram' rather than 'af' to translate hUPO here. This seems to <br>
be the<br>
> > normal preposition used where Gothic needs to express the agent <br>
in a<br>
> > passive construction (unlike Old Norse, where it would <br>
be 'af'). I<br>
> > can't think of any examples where 'af' is used in this way in the<br>
> > Gothic corpus.<br>
> > <br>
> > <a href="http://www.wulfila.be/lib/streitberg/1910/HTML/B037.html">http://www.wulfila.<wbr>be/lib/streitber<wbr>g/1910/HTML/<wbr>B037.html</a><br>
> > <a href="http://www.wulfila.be/lib/streitberg/1910/HTML/B001.html">http://www.wulfila.<wbr>be/lib/streitber<wbr>g/1910/HTML/<wbr>B001.html</a><br>
> > <br>
> > LN<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>> <br>
wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hails!<br>
> > > <br>
> > > (James 3:6):<br>
> > > <br>
> > > "And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the <br>
tongue <br>
> > > among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and <br>
setteth on <br>
> > > fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell".<br>
> > > <br>
> > > KAI hH GLWSSA PUR hO KOSMOS THS ADIKIAS hH GLWSSA KAQISTATAI <br>
EN TOIS <br>
> > > MELESIN hHMWN hH SPILOUSA hOLON TO SWMA KAI FLOGIZOUSA TON <br>
TROCON <br>
> > > THS GENESEWS KAI FLOGIZOMENH hUPO THS GEENNHS<br>
> > > <br>
> > > [*] jah tuggo <ist> fon fairhvus inwindiŝos so tuggo gasatida <br>
ist in <br>
> > > liŝum unsaraim anawammjandei allata leik jah intandjandei run <br>
> > > gabaurŝais jah intandida af gaiainnin<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Please criticize the Gothic version. All comments are welcome.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Thanx<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Ualarauans<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
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