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> Wouldn't it be wise to (re-)construct at once whole word families<br>
rather than single words in cases like "biology" etc – what is<br>
then "biologist" or "biological"<wbr>? Afaik our only attestation of<br>
–leis is lubjaleisai (pl.) which is an adjective glossing liutai in<br>
2. Tim. 3:13 PONHROI DE ANQRWPOI KAI GOHTES iş ubilai mannans jah<br>
liutai. I wonder if it could correspond to Greek noun FARMAKOLOGOI.<br>
<br>
Besides the substantivised adjective 'lubjaliusai' = GOHTES<br>
"magicians" in the gloss, the abstract noun 'lubjaleisei' is attested<br>
at Gal 5:20 in the nominative, where it translates FARMAKEIA. Re.<br>
2Tim 3:13, Friedrichsen comments: "The gloss corresponds more closely<br>
to the Greek in the sense 'magician' [...] whilst liutai reflects the<br>
vg. latt. seductores, Ambr[osia]st[<wbr>er] deceptores" (The Gothic Version<br>
of the Epistles 1939, p. 70). I suggested -leisei as an actually<br>
attested suffix used to create a term meaning "knowledge of / skill<br>
in" out of a concrete noun. But -kunşi, and -frodei make convincing<br>
suffixes too.<br>
<br>
> Another nice question is why we are so afraid of the so called<br>
international terminology?<br>
<br>
I can't speak for the others, but for me it's mainly a matter of<br>
aesthetics. Also more of a challenge to work out how something could<br>
be expressed with the native vocabulary.<br>
<br>
>> music: drunjulists (fem. i-st.)<br>
<br>
> Isn't lists attested for something bad?<br>
<br>
"Cunning/devious tricks", "wiles" (of the devil, so yes: that's pretty<br>
bad!) And the adjective 'listeigs' "crafty, sly".<br>
<br>
>> participate: dailaniman (sv. IV)<br>
>> participator: dailanimands (masc. nd-st.)<br>
<br>
How about the already attested: ga-daila, man. Attested idioms:<br>
gadaila wisan/wairşan + inanimate noun in the genitive "to partake of,<br>
to receive a share in" (e.g. a benefit) -- although I'm not sure if<br>
the meaning would extend to "to participate in" (e.g. some act); ... +<br>
animate noun in the dative "to be a partaker with; to be partner to".<br>
<br>
> There's a verb fair-aihan METECEIN. Doesn't it fit the meaning? And,<br>
why not to keep the elements apart: daila niman, in the verb? Like<br>
arbi niman "to inherit", hunsla saljan "to worship" (lit. "to offer<br>
sacrifices")<wbr>. Since Gothic didn't separate words in writing it's<br>
difficult (isn't it?) to say whether these semi-compounds (a wrong<br>
term I guess) should be written apart or together in modern style<br>
Latinized orthography. BTW nomen agentis could also be daila-numja<br>
(after arbi-numja).<br>
<br>
I would agree to writing as two words, noun and verb. I think the<br>
clue is that were appropriate the noun-element is inflected for case<br>
and number just like a separate word: lofam slohun = ERAPISAN<br>
`slapped' (Mt 26:67); wrakos winnand = DIWCQHSONTAI = Lat.<br>
persecutionem patientur `shall suffer persecution' (2Tim 3:12).<br>
<br>
> To keep it quite simple, how about hvas-drus, hvis-drus, hvamma-drus<br>
and hvana-drus? The vocative could then probably be o!-drus :-) And<br>
no un-Gothic cases which is a pity.<br>
<br>
That's a very neat idea. And instrumental: hve-drus.<br>
<br>
LN<br>
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