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<p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Michael Erwin <merwin@...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I agree. I suggest that (in addition to the household words, etc.) we<br>
> should come up with word-lists for linguistics and archaeology. The<br>
> former has already started with case names.<br>
> <br>
> For the latter, what are suitable Gothic renderings of:<br>
><br>
> - Culture<br>
> - [A specific archaeological] culture<br>
<br>
I know there will be better variants made up from native words, but <br>
what if we use *kultura F.-o and arkaiulaugikeina (-laugiska) kultura <br>
respectively? We have to decide something about this ending ikeins <br>
vs. isks. The former is attested as a rendering of Greek IKOS, the <br>
latter is as modern Germanic languages (except English I guess) have <br>
it. Or if the policy is that NO foreign words may exist in revived <br>
Gothic, then you don't need it of course. But then I can hardly <br>
imagine how the language is to be used at all.<br>
<br>
As a variant I'd suggest huzdastažs, lit. "treasure place" for <br>
archaeological site, metaphorically. Airžahuzd for "archaeological <br>
find".<br>
<br>
> - Ecology<br>
<br>
Wkaulaugia? Garda-leisei/<wbr>-kunži? Garda-waldains? And what will <br>
be "ecologist" and "ecological"<wbr>? Actually, what is (if there is) a <br>
public consensus on "nature"? You could form something from it.<br>
<br>
> - Technology<br>
<br>
Taiknulaugia as an abstract noun. For a concrete device we'd need <br>
something different.<br>
<br>
> - Artifact<br>
<br>
I was thinking over it since I made a translation of the articles' <br>
titles and I've come to *handu-waurstw N.-a constructed from attested <br>
components and meaning literally "a hand-made item".<br>
<br>
> - Settlement<br>
<br>
Saližwa? *Salistažs "place of dwelling"?<br>
<br>
> - Gravegoods<br>
<br>
*Hlaiwahuzda pl.?<br>
<br>
> - Oksywie<br>
> - Przeworsk<br>
> - Weilbark<br>
> - Chernyakhov<br>
> - Sintana de Mures<br>
<br>
If Polish names have German equivalents like Wielbark/Willenberg it's <br>
relatively easy to Gothicize them: Wiljabairg(s)<wbr>. What would you say <br>
seeing a "monster" like this: Wiljabairgis Arkaiulaugikeina Kultura? <br>
At least it looks like a living European language, not a puristic <br>
abstraction.<br>
<br>
If no German(ic) equivalent is found, then there are two ways that we <br>
can take: either translate the name literally according to its meaning <br>
in the given language or try to render its phonetics with Gothic <br>
alphabet remembering that the result must be pronounceable to a <br>
imagined Goth. Using a plausible folk-etymology would be fine I guess.<br>
<br>
E.g., Chernyakhov may be Kairnjaxof. The start K is actually not k, <br>
but koppa used in historical Gothic as a numeral only. We can <br>
specialize it to render palatalized k, i.e. [ch]. One reason to do so <br>
is that in Cyrillic which was also based on Greek and is close to the <br>
Wulfilan alphabet in several other respects, the corresponding letter <br>
with the same shape and the same numerical value was and still is used <br>
for [ch]. The problem is how to transliterate it in Latin characters. <br>
I'd suggest using letter c. The letter x would do for [kh], again in <br>
accord with Cyrillic. The long [o] would designate that this vowel is <br>
stressed. The final f alternates with b in oblique cases.<br>
So, Cairnjaxof, gen. Cairnjaxobis, adj. cairnjaxobisks.<br>
<br>
For all fans of folk-etymology (and I am one of them myself) I'd <br>
suggest using Qairnugawi, lit. "mill region" or the like. This gawi <br>
would support that this is a geographic location.<br>
<br>
Romanian Romance names are probably to be led back to presumed Latin <br>
etymon which can be then "borrowed" into Gothic. Unfortunately I don't <br>
know the proto-form of Sintana. Maybe it would be just Sintana F.-o in <br>
Gothic? And what is a Gothic reconstruction for the river Mures. If I <br>
remember right Jordanes mentions it as Marisia. It's quite certain <br>
that the historical Goths did have a name for this river. What could <br>
it be?<br>
<br>
Ualarauans<br>
<br>
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