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<p>Thanks for your sharp eye. I will make most of these changes now and<br>
wait till LN responds for the rest. We should probably upload new lists<br>
every week or two weeks at a maximum frequency...<wbr>once the current list<br>
has been sorted out!<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
<br>
> "African Afar, mr. cf. Lat. Afer" the r-declension is a closed<br>
> class in Germanic including five nouns: Go. fadar, *modar, brožar,<br>
> swistar, dauhtar. I haven't heard of examples that new words could<br>
> enter it. Taking into consideration Latin oblique cases Afri, Afro,<br>
> Afrum etc, maybe it would be better to construct Go. *Afrs, ma./mi.,<br>
> *Afriland, afrisks, a.? Or, to Gothicize Lat. Africa, maybe *Afreiki<br>
> or Afareiki (or even Afar-reiki or Aba-reiki), nia., Af(a)reikja,<br>
> man., af(a)reikisks, a.?<br>
><br>
> "Antjos, mja.pl." probably also an i-stem, Anteis?<br>
><br>
> "birch tree bairka, fo.; bairkja, mn." to avoid complications<br>
with<br>
> the ending, maybe bairkabagms (like smakka-bagms, alewa-bagms)<wbr>?<br>
<br>
Orel attests PGmc. *berkjon (sb.n./f.) from an earlier *berko (sb.f.). I<br>
think -bagms was a later way to make designations of tree kinds. Birch<br>
would be a very familiar tree and of ancient use among Germanic tribes.<br>
I would support:<br>
Go. *bairkjo (fn. or nn.) or *bairka (fo.) "birch (tree)"; Go.<br>
*bairkeins "of birch"; *qźdwa (fo.) "birch sap", *nźbrs (fi.)<br>
"birch bark"<br>
<br>
> "forest, wood skohs, ma (g)" you mean skohs, gen. skogis? Afaik<br>
> there're no examples of such a change.<br>
<br>
I furthermore don't see that Grimm's idea is correct, at least as far as<br>
Orel can determine from his idea of common Germanic. *skoh- should give<br>
use something to do with shoes. However Orel does have a Pgmc. *skagon<br>
(sb.m.) "small wood, copse, thicket; low cape, ness" (the meanings are<br>
from different daughter languages. Thus he puts the ON forest-terms from<br>
this same root, while both are attest in Danish as "skog" and "Skagen"<br>
for instance, and probaby Skagerrak and who knows what else. There also<br>
seems to be a related root *skag(j)an (sb.n.) "beard, head-hair". If we<br>
postulate a separate root for Go. skohsl as PGmc. *skog- or *skoh-<br>
(themselves alternating in in the shoe-terms) with sense "wood, forest",<br>
can we relate "forest" - "wood" - "(wooden) shoe" ?<br>
<br>
> "grammar mažla-kunži, fjo." marketology?<br>
<br>
mažli-kunži, fjo. would be study of public discourse or speaking<br>
at an assembly. I think Grammar properly would be "mel" or perhaps<br>
"meli-kunži" though it implies "writing" it means now "the proper<br>
setting of grammatical cases" inter alia. Syntax would be the proper<br>
setting of words, *waurda-tewa or so?<br>
<br>
> "Regensburg Rignisbaurgs" the name comes from Lat. Regina<br>
castra.<br>
> Go. Raginabaurgs or Raginisbaurgs?<br>
<br>
Why not *Regina- or *Regeina-baurgs?<br>
<br>
> "Romania Romanja; Romanian Rumanisks" Would you explain this o/u<br>
> fluctuation?<br>
<br>
I attempted to correct all o's to 'u's where the string "róm"<br>
occurred, but missed one. I think o is properly transliterating<br>
"Romania" instead of relating it back to Rome (Go. Ruma-) so maybe it<br>
should be "róm"?<br>
<br>
> "Slav, Russian Winida; Slavic, Russian Winidisks" it seems like<br>
> commonly accepted that the Gothic name of Jordanes' Venethi sounded<br>
> *Winižos. Hence winižisks, a. OHG Winida pl. confirms that.<br>
> For "Russian" we'd need another word. Maybe, we could use Rož(i)s-,<br>
> based on the known PN forms *Rōžez for Swedish Roslagen? For<br>
> instance, Rožsa-manna, Rožsa-land, rožsisks?<br>
<br>
Maybe. Maybe Rožs (ma) Rožsis. Or (austa-)Sklabens (ma.)<br>
<br>
> "United States Bandareikja" What is banda- in Gothic? Maybe<br>
> Gabundana Reikja?<br>
<br>
This is probably Go. bandi "bond, fetter" vinculum, desmos, like also<br>
Go. bundi, which seems though closer to Go. bindan. There is also Go.<br>
gabinda "band, ligament, ligature" Binde and *gabindi "id.". I would<br>
hesitate to call anything a "reiki" which is not ruled by a "reiks".<br>
Perhaps Gabindi-landa (na.pl.) or -gawja (nja.pl.). "United" is closer<br>
to Go. *gawidans (a) or maybe *ga-ainižs (a). How about *Amalareiki?<br>
;-)<br>
<br>
> "waira-alds" wairalds? Do we need a constructed word for "world"<br>
> having fairhvus and midjungards attested?<br>
<br>
No, just including Grimm's ideas for discussion.<br>
><br>
> "world-sea hrigga-marei" Another good option is *Wandilmarei or<br>
> *Wandilsaiws after OE Wendelsę, OHG Wentilseo, MHG Wendelmer.<br>
> Originally it was probably Mediterranean. Should we keep this<br>
> meaning?<br>
><br>
> Ualarauans<br>
><br>
<br>
Good ideas!<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
-Th.<br>
<br>
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