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Hi again,<br>
<br>
I must make still a remark.<br>
<br>
November is in our old calendar slaughtermonth -slaktmånad and<br>
december is I think Göje. We must however count the former Yule a<br>
little earlier since the present calender answers for Yule to the 13<br>
December in the Iulian calender. The winter sacrifice, start pof<br>
winter, occured also according to the present calender around the 4th<br>
of november full moon, which is in the middle of november in the<br>
Iulian one.The mid-winter sacrifice varied between 21 january to<br>
beginning march depending on the full moon in a 8-year cycle. To<br>
complicate it we probably had a cultic year of 13 months ruled by the<br>
moon and a 12 months year ruled by the sun. Now the 13th of December<br>
we celebrate Lusse (Christian variant- Lucia) and have hoisting demons<br>
asking for furnishing exactly like the former julfolk (shamanistic<br>
cultic leagues). I think also the carol singing begging for money in<br>
AS countries is a remnant of this. Accordingly when stating time for<br>
Yule we have to, i presume, use the sun calendar but for sacrifices<br>
the moon calendar. It can be a little tricky.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Ingemar<br>
<br>
-- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Ingemar Nordgren" <ingemar@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> <br>
> Hi Llama non and Arthur,<br>
> <br>
> I am sure you both know that several researchers have suggested ther<br>
> is a treasury of preserved Gothic in Finnish. Other however have<br>
> denied it and meant it is PGmc or Nordic borrowings. Still there is a<br>
> good possibility that juhla could derive from Gothic. Who am I to know.<br>
> <br>
> I knew of course of the microscanning of Gothic documents but only of<br>
> the new technique as such and not of specific results as in the case<br>
> of Naubaimbair. I must ask Lars more specific of that next time we<br>
> meet. Typically enough we met together with the Bulgarians in Uppsala<br>
> but I had no idea of this very thing.<br>
> <br>
> Your reference, Llama, to Dróttin is good and it has parallels in A-S<br>
> and OSax. The Swedish example is however much later - medieval. The<br>
> sense in any case is good and your suggestion of fraujins mel<br>
> gabaurþais seems good to me for the Christian feast and so we can save<br>
> jiuleis(in the proper form that you as linguist decide), preferably as<br>
> before and after, for Yule. Everybody are happy.<br>
> <br>
> Best greetings<br>
> Ingemar<br>
><br>
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