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<p>Hails<br>
<br>
Good idea. It seems month names could be more flexible and adaptable<br>
in the Germanic world. I think it reasonable to take those month-names<br>
which most closely harmonize with the agricultural schedule of the<br>
societies in the area where Goths lived during the 4th century.<br>
According to the wiki page on Germanic calendars, December has Jul or<br>
its variant.<br>
<br>
January in OE, ON supports Jiuleis. OHG supports *hardu-menoths or<br>
maybe eisa-<br>
<br>
Feb. OE supports Sauil-, OHG supports Haurna-<br>
Mar. OE Hre∂, ON supports Go. aina-mnths., OHG supports Go.<br>
?*Laggi(?t[h]<wbr>)an(-mnths.<wbr>)<br>
<br>
May, OE & OHG support *threi- or *thrija-miluk-<br>
<br>
June OE uses the Li∂ system; ON supports *Sauil- and OHG has Brach-<br>
"fallow"<br>
<br>
July ON and OHG both support Go. *hawi- or hauja-mnths.<br>
<br>
Aug. revolves around plants and harvest: Go. *asani-mnths "harvest month".<br>
<br>
Sep. OE, ON and OHG all support Go. *harbisi-mnths. "picking month".<br>
<br>
Oct. lacks agreement.<br>
<br>
Nov. might be something like nibla-mnths. or friuza-mnths.<br>
<br>
Dec. would be Fruma Jiuleis I think.<br>
<br>
It might be good to consider monthnames in the style of ON Heyannir,<br>
OHG Scheiding, etc., that is the abstract or poetic terms rather than<br>
forms dependent on suffixing -menoths.<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "llama_nom" <600cell@> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Many thanks for this Arthur. I read it ages ago, but had <br>
> completely<br>
> > forgotten that detail about the phantom status of *Naubaimbair!<br>
> > <br>
> > <a href="http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/index.html">http://www.modeemi.<wbr>cs.tut.fi/<wbr>~david/index.<wbr>html</a><br>
> > <a href="http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/report.pdf">http://www.modeemi.<wbr>cs.tut.fi/<wbr>~david/report.<wbr>pdf</a><br>
> > <br>
> > The relevant section is on p. 54. Which leaves us with just 'fruma<br>
> > jiuleis' as the name of the month, and no way of knowing whether <br>
> the<br>
> > illegible word was a synonym (*Naubaimbair or otherwise) or <br>
> something<br>
> > else entirely.<br>
> <br>
> But if Naubaimbair is a fancy, what's worth our reconstruction of <br>
> the Gothic month names based on Latin? If only fruma jiuleis is <br>
> attested, then one could logically suppose that all other Gothic <br>
> month names were also Germanic. Afaik there were several Calender <br>
> traditions in Germania, with their own month names. Which of them <br>
> are we to follow? E.g. OHG and OE give only one match which could <br>
> speak for Go. Austramenoþs "April".<br>
> <br>
> Ualarauans<br>
> <br>
> > Re. alternative names, I just came across the following Old West <br>
> Norse<br>
> > and Old Swedish proposals: Dróttins burðar tíð; gudz födzlo hötidh <br>
> [<br>
> > <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julfest">http://de.wikipedia<wbr>.org/wiki/<wbr>Julfest</a> ], neither of which caught on.<br>
> > So maybe we could have: 'fraujins mel gabaurþais', or similar. <br>
> Bit of<br>
> > a mouthful, I know... Thinks: does the final vowel in <br>
> Finnish 'juhla'<br>
> > and 'joula' imply a specifically East Germanic origin for the<br>
> > loanword, as opposed to Proto Germanic -o or Proto Nordic -u? If <br>
> so,<br>
> > we have a nice piece of evidence for the survival of both versions <br>
> in<br>
> > East Germanic: *jaihvla and *jiula.<br>
><br>
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