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<p>tammikuu<br>
(January) helmikuu<br>
(February) maaliskuu<br>
(March) huhtikuu<br>
(April) toukokuu<br>
(May) kesäkuu<br>
(June) heinäkuu<br>
(July) elokuu<br>
(August) syyskuu<br>
(September) lokakuu<br>
(October) marraskuu<br>
(November) joulukuu<br>
(December)<br>
<a href="http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/3236/?letter=C&spage=2">http://www.wordinfo<wbr>.info/words/<wbr>index/info/<wbr>view_unit/<wbr>3236/?letter=<wbr>C&spage\<br>
=2</a><br>
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I couldn't find translations for the names but had to look up the parts:<br>
1. Oak Moon<br>
2. Pearl Moon<br>
3. Earthy Moon<br>
4. (? Related to shouting?) Moon<br>
5. Sowing Moon<br>
6. Summer Moon<br>
7. Hay Moon<br>
8. Life Moon<br>
9. Autumn Moon<br>
10. Mud Moon<br>
11. Dead Moon<br>
12. Yule Moon<br>
<br>
Now that we've covered most of the appropriate region, what do you<br>
think?<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Arthur Jones <arthurobin2002@<wbr>...><br>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hails Frijandeis,<br>
><br>
> Please allow me to throw a heathen ringer into this process. Llama<br>
Nom's suggestion of months named for agricultural and other seasonal<br>
necessities reminds me of the Latvian traditional (pre-Christian)<br>
months, a few of which parallel the pondered Gothic equivalents:<br>
><br>
> January Ziemas (winter)<br>
> February Svecu (candles)<br>
> March Sersnu (late frost)<br>
> April Sulu (rising sap)<br>
> May Lapu (leaves)<br>
> June Ziedu (flowers)<br>
> July Siena (hay)<br>
> August Rudzu (rye)<br>
> September Silu (heather)<br>
> October Velu (devil)<br>
> November Sala (winter frost)<br>
> December Vilku (wolves)<br>
><br>
> Unfortunately, modern Latvian uses numbers for days of the week<br>
(pirmdiena=Monday, otrdiena=Tuesday, etc.), and Latin names for the<br>
months. Diemzel es nepiekritu.<br>
><br>
> Thuk golja,<br>
><br>
> Aizamunds.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> llama_nom 600cell@... wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> > Feb. OE supports Sauil-,<br>
><br>
> All the sources I've seen cite 'sol' in OE Solmónaþ with a short<br>
> vowel: OE sol, n. "mud, mire, wet sand, wallowing place",<br>
> solu/solwe/sylu/<wbr>syle, f. "mire, miry place"; sol, adjective "filthy",<br>
> solian "to make/become dirty", sylian "to make dirty", related by<br>
> ablaut to Go. bi-sáuljan. So February is the muddy month, February<br>
> Fill-dyke (German variants: Volburn, Vulneburn), rather than the sunny<br>
> month!<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://runeberg.org/svetym/1029.html">http://runeberg.<wbr>org/svetym/<wbr>1029.html</a><br>
> <a href="http://runeberg.org/svetym/0911.html">http://runeberg.<wbr>org/svetym/<wbr>0911.html</a><br>
><br>
> Compare also the German name: Sollman (Selle, Sille, Sulle, Silmaent);<br>
> perhaps semantically related to Zelle, Zille, Zulle (cf. Go. *tulla<br>
> "sod", borrowed into Italian and distinguishable from Langobardic by<br>
> the unshifted initial consonant)?<br>
><br>
> LN<br>
><br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "thiudans" thiudans@ wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hails<br>
> ><br>
> > Good idea. It seems month names could be more flexible and adaptable<br>
> > in the Germanic world. I think it reasonable to take those<br>
month-names<br>
> > which most closely harmonize with the agricultural schedule of the<br>
> > societies in the area where Goths lived during the 4th century.<br>
> > According to the wiki page on Germanic calendars, December has Jul<br>
or<br>
> > its variant.<br>
> ><br>
> > January in OE, ON supports Jiuleis. OHG supports *hardu-menoths or<br>
> > maybe eisa-<br>
> ><br>
> > Feb. OE supports Sauil-, OHG supports Haurna-<br>
> > Mar. OE Hre∂, ON supports Go. aina-mnths., OHG supports Go.<br>
> > ?*Laggi(?t[h]<wbr>)an(-mnths.<wbr>)<br>
> ><br>
> > May, OE & OHG support *threi- or *thrija-miluk-<br>
> ><br>
> > June OE uses the Li∂ system; ON supports *Sauil- and OHG has<br>
> Brach-<br>
> > "fallow"<br>
> ><br>
> > July ON and OHG both support Go. *hawi- or hauja-mnths.<br>
> ><br>
> > Aug. revolves around plants and harvest: Go. *asani-mnths "harvest<br>
> month".<br>
> ><br>
> > Sep. OE, ON and OHG all support Go. *harbisi-mnths. "picking month".<br>
> ><br>
> > Oct. lacks agreement.<br>
> ><br>
> > Nov. might be something like nibla-mnths. or friuza-mnths.<br>
> ><br>
> > Dec. would be Fruma Jiuleis I think.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > It might be good to consider monthnames in the style of ON Heyannir,<br>
> > OHG Scheiding, etc., that is the abstract or poetic terms rather<br>
than<br>
> > forms dependent on suffixing -menoths.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "llama_nom" <600cell@> wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Many thanks for this Arthur. I read it ages ago, but had<br>
> > > completely<br>
> > > > forgotten that detail about the phantom status of *Naubaimbair!<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > <a href="http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/index.html">http://www.modeemi.<wbr>cs.tut.fi/<wbr>~david/index.<wbr>html</a><br>
> > > > <a href="http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/report.pdf">http://www.modeemi.<wbr>cs.tut.fi/<wbr>~david/report.<wbr>pdf</a><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > The relevant section is on p. 54. Which leaves us with just<br>
'fruma<br>
> > > > jiuleis' as the name of the month, and no way of knowing whether<br>
> > > the<br>
> > > > illegible word was a synonym (*Naubaimbair or otherwise) or<br>
> > > something<br>
> > > > else entirely.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > But if Naubaimbair is a fancy, what's worth our reconstruction of<br>
> > > the Gothic month names based on Latin? If only fruma jiuleis is<br>
> > > attested, then one could logically suppose that all other Gothic<br>
> > > month names were also Germanic. Afaik there were several Calender<br>
> > > traditions in Germania, with their own month names. Which of them<br>
> > > are we to follow? E.g. OHG and OE give only one match which could<br>
> > > speak for Go. Austramenoþs "April".<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Ualarauans<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Re. alternative names, I just came across the following Old West<br>
> > > Norse<br>
> > > > and Old Swedish proposals: Dróttins burðar tíð; gudz<br>
födzlo hötidh<br>
> > > [<br>
> > > > <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julfest">http://de.wikipedia<wbr>.org/wiki/<wbr>Julfest</a> ], neither of which caught<br>
on.<br>
> > > > So maybe we could have: 'fraujins mel gabaurþais', or<br>
similar.<br>
> > > Bit of<br>
> > > > a mouthful, I know... Thinks: does the final vowel in<br>
> > > Finnish 'juhla'<br>
> > > > and 'joula' imply a specifically East Germanic origin for the<br>
> > > > loanword, as opposed to Proto Germanic -o or Proto Nordic -u? If<br>
> > > so,<br>
> > > > we have a nice piece of evidence for the survival of both<br>
versions<br>
> > > in<br>
> > > > East Germanic: *jaihvla and *jiula.<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ARTHUR A. JONES<br>
><br>
><br>
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><br>
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