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Thanks, Ingemar! There are a few suggestions regarding the etymology<br>
of Torsmånad here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://runeberg.org/svetym/1083.html">http://runeberg.<wbr>org/svetym/<wbr>1083.html</a><br>
<br>
Judging by Icelandic þorri and Norwegian torre, it could be that the<br>
association with the god Tor is a folk-etymology. The idea that it<br>
might have originally meant "dry month" is strange given all of these<br>
names from England and Germany that refer to how wet it is! But maybe<br>
this is due to the different climate further north -- dry, I guess,<br>
because the land is frozen (see the first ON quote below). I've also<br>
seen the Icelandic name interpreted as "frozen snow" (maybe still<br>
related to this root meaning dry?). Old Icelandic sources name Þorri<br>
as the son of Snær (snow). Snær's other children are named after<br>
various types of snow (drift, blizzard, powdery snow). Hversu Noregr<br>
byggðisk:<br>
<br>
Fornjótr hét maðr. Hann átti þrjá sonu; var einn Hlér, annarr Logi,<br>
þriði Kári. Hann réð fyrir vindum, en Logi fyrir eldi, Hlér fyrir sjó.<br>
Kári var faðir Jökuls, föður Snæs konungs, en börn Snæs konungs váru<br>
þau Þorri, Fönn, Drífa ok Mjöll. Þorri var konungr ágætr. Hann réð<br>
fyrir Gotlandi, Kænlandi ok Finnlandi. Hann blótuðu Kænir til þess, at<br>
snjóva gerði ok væri skíðfæri gott. Þat er ár þeira. Þat blót skyldi<br>
vera at miðjum vetri, ok var þaðan af kallaðr Þorra mánaðr.<br>
<br>
(...The Kænir made sacrifices to him so that he would make it snow and<br>
there would be a good surface for skiing on. That sacrificial feast<br>
took place at midwinter and Þorri's month (Þorra mánaðr) was named<br>
after it.)<br>
<br>
Fundinn Noregr:<br>
<br>
Fornjótr hefir konungr heitit. Hann réð fyrir Gotlandi, er kallat er<br>
Finnland ok Kvenland. Þat er fyrir austan hafsbotn þann, er gengr til<br>
móts við Gandvík; þat köllum vér Helsingjabotn. Fornjótr átti þrjá<br>
syni. Hét einn Hlér, er vér köllum Ægi, annarr Logi, þriði Kári. Hann<br>
var faðir Frosta, föður Snæs ins gamla. Hans sonr hét Þorri. Hann átti<br>
tvá syni, hét annarr Nórr, en annarr Górr, dóttir hans hét Gói. Þorri<br>
var blótmaðr mikill. Hann hafði blót á hverju ári at miðjum vetri; þat<br>
kölluðu þeir Þorrablót. Af því tók mánaðrinn heiti.<br>
<br>
Þat var tíðenda einn vetr at Þorrablóti, at Gói hvarf í brott, ok var<br>
hennar leita farit, ok finnst hún eigi. Ok er sá mánaðr leið, lét<br>
Þorri fá at blóti ok blóta til þess er þeir yrði vísir, hvar Gói væri<br>
niðr komin; þat kölluðu þeir Góiblót. <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.snerpa.is/net/forn/fornjot.htm">http://www.snerpa.<wbr>is/net/forn/<wbr>fornjot.htm</a><br>
<br>
Gói is the name of the next month after Þorri. The other theory is<br>
that þorri refers to the lessening of the severity of winter, the<br>
reduction, dwindling, decrease, waning, coming-to-an-<wbr>end of winter,<br>
cf. Icelandic þverra "to dwindle, decrease"; þurðr (also 'þurða') "a<br>
decrease, waning".<br>
<br>
LN<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Ingemar Nordgren" <ingemar@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Llama non,<br>
> <br>
> You asked about the Swedish month-names. If we go back to the<br>
> Bondepraktika, which is not ON but just medieval we have:<br>
> <br>
> January- Torsmånad<br>
> February- Göjemånad<br>
> March - Martius, Mars månad (latin of course)<br>
> April - Aprilis, April månad (-"- )<br>
> May - Majus, Maj månad ( -"- )<br>
> June - Midsommarmånad (and Junius)<br>
> July - Hömånad<br>
> August - Skördemånad<br>
> September - Höstmånad<br>
> October - Slaktmånad<br>
> November - Vintermånad<br>
> December - Julmånad<br>
> <br>
> Accordingly I fucked it up earlier with Göje and Slaughtermonth which<br>
> are February and October. <br>
> <br>
> Suggestion for May I would say Lövmånad/Leafmonth since e.g. Maypole<br>
> is understood as a leafed pole. May bis the rebirth of leafed plants.<br>
> <br>
> March and April I do not really know but I think it should be natural<br>
> with 'vårmånad'-spring month for April?? <br>
> <br>
> I am a bit dubious concerning Tor in january since he is connected<br>
> with farming and specially ploughing in old saywords.At Borholm it<br>
> says 'Three (plough)lines for Þórr give a green spring'. During the<br>
> Disting the first symbolic ploughlines were made with sacrifice of<br>
> bread to Freja. I would rather have Torsmånad in March as a<br>
> preparation for sowing and January would fit better to e.g.<br>
> frostmånad-Frost month or better Midvintermånad-<wbr>Mid Winter month since<br>
> the Midwinter feast/Disting starts its cycle 21 januari but during an<br>
> 8-years cycle it moves until 19 february.At the Disting the first<br>
> symbolic ploughglines were taken and hence Ploughmonth -Torsmonth<br>
> would fit rather well the following month and before sowing/planting<br>
> in 'Vårmånaden'(Spring month)<br>
> <br>
> This, as I say, is a medieval naming being used until almost modern<br>
> times and hence there has been a lot of late influence on the naming.<br>
> <br>
> Best<br>
> Ingemar<br>
><br>
<br>
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