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<p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Aaron,<br>
> <br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "brynhild84" <AaronCarpenter@<wbr>> <br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Can someone look at the grammar for this first part of a story <br>
> that I<br>
> > have written in Gothic?<br>
> > Thanks.<br>
> <br>
> I'll try but you better add your English translation next time so <br>
> that we could be sure what you mean.<br>
> <br>
> > Sai farra, thiudan unsara farith finthith hozd, skalks is gibith <br>
> aiths<br>
> > is hilpith thiudan is.<br>
> <br>
> If this was intended to mean roughly: "behold ... (what <br>
> is `farra'?), our king is going to find a treasure, his servant <br>
> swears an oath to help his king", then I'd have it thus:<br>
> <br>
> Sai, žiudans (nom. sg.) unsar (masc. nom. sg.) fariž (just "goes", <br>
> not "is going" in the sense "intends") finžan (infinitive)<br>
<br>
'finthan' "to discover" (information)<wbr>, "to learn". I think 'bigitan'<br>
"find" fits better. For the idiom 'gaggan' + infintive, cf. L 19:12:<br>
'manna sums godakunds gaggida landis franiman sis žiudangardja'<wbr>. Or<br>
alternatively, the subjunctive could be used: "gaggith, ei huzd bigitai".<br>
<br>
> huzd, <br>
> skalks is gibiž aiž (acc. sg.) hilpan (infinitive) thiudanis (gen. <br>
> sg.) is.<br>
> <br>
> > Agar eis farand weis saiand akran jah itand milith, hlaits ja <br>
> swein.<br>
> > Afar 80 dagos barn meina saihwan thiudans skip jah qith: "thiudan<br>
> > afraqimith!"<br>
> <br>
> What is `agar'?<br>
<br>
A typo for 'afar' perhaps?<br>
<br>
> Maybe mižžanei "while"? Mižžanei farand saiam ("we <br>
> sow") akran jah itam ("we eat") miliž, ... (what is `hlaits'? <br>
> Maybe `hlaif' acc. sg.?) jah swein. Afar 80 dagans (acc. pl.) <br>
> saihviž ("sees") barn mein (neuter nom. sg.) žiudanis (gen. sg.) <br>
> skip jah qižiž ("speaks"): žiudans (nom. sg.) aftraqimiž!<br>
<br>
We need genitive plural 'dage' after 80 (ahtau tiguns). 'aftra<br>
qimith' / 'qimith aftra': such adverbial particles often appear after<br>
the verb in main clauses, where there's no Greek model, but it's not<br>
an absolute rule. An alternative: gawandeith sik.<br>
<br>
> ("I will <br>
> kill", your `ik wil kill' betrays that the king speaks English!) <br>
<br>
I guess we can excuse him this one time though; it's obviously an<br>
emotional moment ;-)<br>
<br>
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