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<p>May I suggest that IH means Iisus Hristos and IN means Iisus <br>
Nazarinean, as common for that site and that era.<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Arthur Jones <arthurobin2002@<wbr>...> <br>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hails alla<br>
> <br>
> In a quick response to a very well-placed query by Nathan <br>
Bellomy-McKnight about the Pernik Sword, might I posit the following:<br>
> <br>
> 1. Some months ago I posted some info about this relic, and <br>
there is indeed much available online, although some of it is in <br>
Swedish, Italian, Bulgarian or German. Several of you out there can <br>
perhaps help me out here, although with sufficient time I may be <br>
able to ferret many such articles out and post them.<br>
> <br>
> Archaeological dating techniques date the sweord to the mid-<br>
eighth Century AD. Pernik, where the sword was uncovered, lies <br>
between Sophia, Bulgaria, and the Serbian border. <br>
> <br>
> 2. We can tell that it is Langobardic because the text <br>
corresponds best and most consistently to the beginning era of the <br>
Second Sound Shift (Zweite Lautverschiebung) that nowadays <br>
distinguishes High German from Low German. Thus, in a number of <br>
existing Bavarian-Austrian dialects, including Zimbri, initial <br>
voiced labials such as "b" became unvoiced, i.e., turned into "p". <br>
This explains the "pid" and "pn". The "hwil" or "huil" Nathan is <br>
right about; "hweil" was the Gothic for hour or time. Further, the <br>
Alpine Zimbrisch dialect likewise uses "pn" where NHD uses "bin". <br>
Thus, the most likely translation is found at the end of this poem, <br>
undoubtedly written by a GREAT BUT UNRECOGNIZED MASTER BARD (ahem: <br>
me):<br>
> <br>
> I am mindful of inscriptions on a Langobardic sword;<br>
> Served well its master in the Balkans,<br>
> Sparked and rang off helm and shield,<br>
> Proved a voiceless turning point,<br>
> made<br>
> Raucous cries into faint gurgles,<br>
> Made the mighty yield.<br>
> <br>
> yet poems past, and sabres hoary,<br>
> Strive for memory and vain glory:<br>
> <br>
> IH INI NI HUIL PID -- (I)H INI HUIL PN<br>
> <br>
> I, within, not (the) hour await;<br>
> I, within, (the) hour am.<br>
> <br>
> Please note that, as in Gothic, the letter "h" can indicate a <br>
guttural such as the "ch" in NHD "Bach" or "Buch". The "Pid" , <br>
Gothic "beidan", to bide, to await.<br>
> <br>
> Golja thuk,<br>
> <br>
> Aizamunds<br>
> <br>
> Arthur A. Jones<br>
> arthur.jones@<wbr>...<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Nathan Bellomy-McKnight <aelffin@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
> Hi everybody, <br>
> <br>
> I've been subscribed to Gothic-L for a long time, but as far as I <br>
can recall<br>
> I've never posted anything. Ironically, my first posting isn't <br>
about Gothic,<br>
> but about another old Germanic language. I recently read about the <br>
Pernik<br>
> Sword. It was found in Bulgaria in the 1920s I think, and has the <br>
following<br>
> inscription: +IHININIhVILPIDHINI<wbr>hVILPN+<br>
> <br>
> In the last couple of years, a researcher claimed to have <br>
identified the<br>
> language as Austro-Bavarian, Lombardic, or another early West <br>
Germanic<br>
> language. The translation they give is "I do not await eternity, I <br>
am<br>
> eternity." But since the paper isn't available online, I'm not <br>
sure of the<br>
> intended parsing for such a translation. <br>
> <br>
> Assuming a West Germanic language with "hvil" for <br>
E. "while"/G. "weile", I<br>
> would guess the inscription is supposed to be parsed as: "I hini <br>
ni hvilpid<br>
> hini hvilpn". This would make -id and -n pretty typical Germanic <br>
verb<br>
> inflections. But what's that p doing in there? -pid and -pn would <br>
be<br>
> surprising verb endings I think. Could hvilp- be the root word? <br>
Wouldn't<br>
> that make it less likely to be cognate with "while/weile"<wbr>? Are <br>
there any<br>
> potential cognates in other Germanic languages for somehting like <br>
this?<br>
> Maybe: whilpan, whilvan, wilvan, vilfid, whilfed, völvon <br>
(Volvo!)...?<wbr>?? Am I<br>
> barking up the wrong tree? Regardless though, if -id and -n are <br>
verb<br>
> inflections, makes hvilpid sound like a past tense to me. Does <br>
anybody know<br>
> if "hini" has cognates with a meaning similar to "eternity"? <br>
> <br>
> Personally, I think hvilp- (if that's the correct parsing) is more <br>
likely<br>
> cognate with "wolf" (cf. PIE *wlp-), making the p in hvilp- an <br>
archaism that<br>
> was dropped in other Germanic languages. That would make <br>
Lombardic: I hini<br>
> ni hvilpid hini hvilpn. Something like "I am not wolfish, I am <br>
wolfen" or<br>
> "I'm not wolf*like*, I *am* a wolf". In that case, <br>
Lombardic "hini" would<br>
> probably be cognate with "hine", the Anglo-Saxon accusative case <br>
of "he". Or<br>
> maybe hini functions like German heiße (Swedish heter, Icelandic <br>
heiþur) =<br>
> "my name is", so Hvilpid would be a proper name (is Úlfið a <br>
name?), similar<br>
> to Scandinavian Ulfs, Gothic Wulfilas, or German Wolfgang, giving <br>
the<br>
> sentence a meaning akin to "Wolfgang's not just my name, I really <br>
am a<br>
> wolf!" (Jag heter inte Ulfs, jag heter ulf / Ich heiße nicht <br>
Wolfgang, ich<br>
> heiße Wolf) Not a half bad thing to inscribe on your sword if you <br>
ask me...<br>
> Totally speculative, of course.<br>
> <br>
> Any thoughts? <br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> Nathan McKnight<br>
> www.nathanmcknight.<wbr>com<br>
> <br>
> Nathan Bellomy<br>
> Assistant Editor, Science<br>
> McGraw-Hill School Solutions Group<br>
> 8787 Orion Place | Columbus, OH 43240<br>
> Phone: 614-430-4990 | Fax: 614-430-4403<br>
> nathan_bellomy@<wbr>... <br>
> <br>
> The difference between <br>
> theory and practice<br>
> is smaller in theory <br>
> than it is in practice. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ARTHUR A. JONES<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
><br>
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