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<p>Hi,<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Frederick Louis Scoggins <br>
<scoggins3375@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Once again the historian Jordanes was incorrect in identifying the<br>
> Gepidae as German.<br>
<br>
Gepidae were not German, but (East) Germanic. Jordanes was correct <br>
in identifying them as the closest kinsmen of the Goths.<br>
<br>
> Please stop using his flawed historical assumptions.<br>
> They (the Gepidae) were never of that stock but alleged to have <br>
been a<br>
> remnant of the Sumerians.<br>
<br>
Perhaps you would like to come up with some evidence in favor of <br>
this phantastic assumption?<br>
<br>
> They (Gepidae) were destroyed by Trajan in the<br>
> 2d Century A.D. What remained of the ancient Dacians, the Gepidae <br>
were<br>
> absorbed by the later Huns, Magyars and other Slavs.<br>
<br>
The Huns and the Magyars (Hungarians) are not Slavs if you <br>
understand the term as it ought to be understood properly, i.e. as a <br>
name covering peoples of different ethnic origin speaking IE derived <br>
Slavic languages. The language of the present day Hungarians is <br>
Finno-Ugric, brought into Central Europe by the Magyar tribes in the <br>
9-10th ct. CE. After their settling down in what is now Hungary <br>
("Honfoglalas"<wbr>) they assimilated some Slavic and probably also <br>
Germanic speaking groups which had preceded them in that territory. <br>
Which doesn't make them Slavic nor Germanic, of course. What <br>
concerns the Huns, we still don't know exactly what language <br>
the "true Huns" did speak. In fact, the Huns were a collective name <br>
for all members of the Hunnish tribal union, be they Germanic <br>
(Ostrogoths, Gepidae, Heruls, Sciri), Iranian (Alans, Sarmatians) or <br>
of any other descent, including some proto-Slavs too, maybe. The <br>
language of Attila's court at least seems to have been Gothic. But <br>
little is certain here.<br>
<br>
> Here is a good<br>
> scientific research project, examine the Gepidae DNA/RNA with <br>
present<br>
> day Dacians, Bulgars and Romanians.<br>
<br>
There are no present day Dacians. Not since 4-5th ctt. CE. They were <br>
totally romanized soon after Trajan's conquest.<br>
<br>
> Match with the DNA of Sumerians and<br>
> see what the human genome says.<br>
<br>
I wonder where you would get a sample of the DNA of the Sumerians <br>
who became extinct several thousands of years ago. I read somewhere <br>
that some researchers found distinctive genes in Kuwait and were <br>
speculating that Kuwaitis are the genetic descendants of the <br>
Sumerians. But this I think is also far from being granted.<br>
<br>
> Frederick Louis Scoggins<br>
<br>
Ualarauans<br>
<br>
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