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<p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> /Ga-nu-riqizjadau himins strelom/ "So let the heavens be blotted <br>
> with the bolts"<br>
> and<br>
> /Inreiradau grundus ... hrussam/ "Let the ground quiver ... with <br>
> [our] steeds" the attested verbs riqizjan and reiran are <br>
> intransitive, and I don't know if they could be used with what seems <br>
> to be dativus auctoris like transitives in mediopassive. Do we have <br>
> any examples?<br>
<br>
This isn't quite the same, but compare the use of dative both in the<br>
passive 'was ... gawasižs taglam ulbandaus' and the active<br>
intransitive 'hve wasjaima', 'gawasjam sarwam liuhadis', 'ni wasjaiž<br>
twaim paidom'. Or 'agisa mikillamma dishaibaida wesun' : 'ohtedun<br>
agisa mikilamma'. But can we generalise from that to other uses of<br>
the dative? I'll see if I can find a closer match somewhere. Or<br>
would a preposition help: miž, fram, af?<br>
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