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In the Gothic Bible, 'žiudans' is used of a king who goes to war:<br>
<br>
aižžau hvas žiudans gaggands stigqan wižra anžarana žiudan du wiganna,<br>
niu gasitands fauržis žankeiž, siaiu mahteigs miž taihun žusundjom<br>
gamotjan žamma miž twaim tigum žusundjo gaggandin ana sik?<br>
<br>
Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down<br>
first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him<br>
that cometh against him with twenty thousand?<br>
<br>
Luke 14:31<br>
<br>
'frauja' "lord" is also used with no Greek model for the noun in a<br>
military context (II Tim 2:4). I'm not sure whether 'reiks' is used<br>
anywhere in an explicitly military context.<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Ingemar Nordgren" <ingemar@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Lothian,<br>
> <br>
> I am not a linguist but as far as I know they were reiks also when<br>
> leading a war expedition. Their sacral king, however, was never<br>
> allowed to leave his own territory when the people was permanently<br>
> settled, but had to order a reiks to take command. During the<br>
> wandering, according to Getica at least, the žiušans was sacral king<br>
> and he used 'kings of the army' to lead parts of the united army (like<br>
> e.g. Cniva as Wolfram suggests) but I do not know their title in<br>
> Gothic. Later, after the split between Greutungi/Ostrogoth<wbr>s and<br>
> Vesi/Tervingi the Ostrogothic king seems to have behaved like an <br>
> odinistic king while the Vesi had a kindins, family-leader or<br>
> clan-chief, executing the functions of a sacral king.The Ostrogothic<br>
> king accordingly seems to have been a reiks continously and from<br>
> Alaric also the Visgothic king was a reiks, but within Gutžiuša the<br>
> tribal chiefs were reiks/kunigaz and so was the kindins (for his own<br>
> tribe only). Draughtin, Sw. drott, normally is the second in command<br>
> to the king, he is an earl/jarl, but drott may as well be used to<br>
> mean a king, a ruler. I never, however, saw this title in connection<br>
> with an Eastgermanic people. Accordingly I dare not say if it ever was<br>
> used with the Goths. The classical authors use dux when describing the<br>
> leaders just below the king.<br>
> <br>
> Best wishes<br>
> Ingemar<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "the_lothian" <the_lothian@<wbr>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Greetings,<br>
> > <br>
> > I am so glad I found this site. I am in the process of writing a <br>
> > historical novel set during the reign of Constantina I. My goal is <br>
> > to make it as historically accurate as possible. In line with that, <br>
> > I know that the Goths had Reiks, which I think were similar to tribal <br>
> > chiefs. I know that when the Goths went to war the war-chiefs <br>
> > carried the title of Draughtin.<br>
> > <br>
> > My question is, did Draughtin replace Reik as the title or was it <br>
> > added to the title?<br>
> > <br>
> > In example:<br>
> > Would Reik Larry become Draughtin Larry when they went to war, or <br>
> > would he become Draughtin-Reik Larry, (like Governor-General) at war.<br>
> > <br>
> > Is there anyone reading these who can help?<br>
> > <br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > <br>
> > Tom<br>
> ><br>
><br>
<br>
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