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            <p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> ...The<br>
> hypothetical loan could refer to some particular kind of cavalry,<br>
> e.g. auxiliary Alans. The problem is we don't know the Alanic or<br>
> Hunnish word either. Modern Ossetic has baręg for "horseman", but I<br>
> don't know if it's not a later loan from some North Caucasian<br>
idiom.<br>
> Somehow it doesn't look like inherited Iranian. <br>
<br>
Never trust your eyes! I was just told by people competent in this <br>
stuff that Oss. baręg IS inherited. Namely it comes from *bāraka-, <br>
common to all Northeast Iranian dialects. In the Migration period <br>
Alanic it was probably already *bāraga. The latter could be borrowed <br>
into Gothic as *baraga M.-an. Hypothetical semantics (that's <br>
absolutely arbitrary): "(Alanic) mounted warrior".<br>
<br>
See: [<a href="http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/pies/pdfs/IESV/1/VVI_Horse.pdf">http://www.humnet.<wbr>ucla.edu/<wbr>pies/pdfs/<wbr>IESV/1/VVI_<wbr>Horse.pdf</a>] <br>
(pp. 84-85).<br>
<br>
And our discussion here:<br>
[<a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gothic-l/message/9882">http://tech.<wbr>groups.yahoo.<wbr>com/group/<wbr>gothic-l/<wbr>message/9882</a>]<br>
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Ualarauans<br>
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