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<p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> And it can well be that the first elements in Rosomoni, Rausimodus<br>
and Rosamunda are each of different origin.<br>
<br>
Yes.<br>
<br>
> > ON hrósa is probably from *hróðsa (like heilsa). We don't have<br>
cases<br>
> > of þs > ss > s in Gothic, do we? *Hrôza- looks likelier, IMHO.<br>
><br>
> Aha, I think we're making some progress here! Proto-Germanic "t,<br>
d, þ,<br>
> d > ss", e.g. Go. ga-qiss : Go. qiþan; Go. wissa : Go. witan.<br>
And "ss<br>
> > s after long syllables", e.g. Go. un-weis : Go. witan; Go.<br>
> guþ-blostreis : Go. blotan (Wright § 138). So maybe Hrôsa- is<br>
> likeliest after all?<br>
<br>
> In these examples it's rather –TT- > -ss-: ga-qiss < *ga-qiþ- + -Ts<br>
(noun suffix); wissa < *wit- + -Ta (preterite ending); *blostr <<br>
*blôt- + -Tr (cf. gilstr < gild- + -Tr). I don't know about un-weis<br>
(unweis im). Any connection with Lat. uîsus?<br>
<br>
Yes, Wright does indeed mention Lat. uîsus.<br>
<br>
> While we are close, how do you think the -þs so frequent in auslaut<br>
in nom. sg. was pronounced? In Latvian, for instance, which has the<br>
very same sigmatic ending –s in the 1st declension, it forms<br>
affricate [ts] after a dental: gald-s "table" [galts], jumt-s "roof"<br>
[jumts]. Was it like this in Gothic? Or maybe -þs became rather [s]<br>
or [ss]: wairþ-s [wers], staþ-s [stass], un-ga-tewiþs<br>
['ungate:`wiss]<wbr>?<br>
<br>
Presumably the assimilation of dentals discussed in Wright § 138<br>
wasn't still operative in Gothic at the time the language was<br>
recorded, hence the many examples of dentals intact before 's'. At the<br>
time of the assimilation, the final consonant of the nominative<br>
singular ending would have been seperated from the final consonant of<br>
most roots by a stem vowel. But even in consonant stems, it seems that<br>
the final dental of a root was restored in the nominative singular by<br>
analogy with other parts of the paradigm, as in ON fótr, OE fót, where<br>
the "correct" form ought to have been *fós (*fo:t + s).<br>
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