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<p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "llama_nom" <600cell@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@<wbr>...> <br>
wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Sonahildja [...] Sar (Sarws) jah Ama (Hamaşius)<br>
> <br>
> Here are some notes on names that I made a while ago with tentative<br>
> reconstructions of full-names and various hypocoristic shortenings.<br>
> Unfortunately I didn't include references, but I *think* the<br>
> suggestion that initial /h/ was lost in the second elements of<br>
> compounds, along with the joining-vowel, came from a paper by <br>
Bennett.<br>
> I could be mistaken about that though. The details about the name<br>
> recorded in German charters comes from R. W. Chambers, Widsith: A<br>
> Study in Old English Heroic Tradition (Cambridge, 1912).<br>
> <br>
> *Sunjahildi, fjo. Jord. Sunilda; as Suanailt with other names from<br>
> Ermenric story in Charter from Germany, 786; names used in Germany:<br>
> Sonhild, Swanhild; OIc. Svanhildr, due to borrowing from a German<br>
> source with ua < û?; compare Go. Sunjaifrişas; Go. names in Lat.<br>
> Sunie-, very common; Go. sunja `truth'; for loss of -a- in short<br>
> ja-stems as first element of compound names, cf. Agiulfus; and <br>
perhaps<br>
> also with loss of /h/ in second element of compound, cf. Go. <br>
gudhus,<br>
> freijhals, faurhah (=faurahah), manaulja (for *mana-hulja?<wbr>), and <br>
the<br>
> name *Neişada (for *Neişa-haidus?<wbr>, cf. OIc. Níğuğr, gen. Níğağar; <br>
OE<br>
> Nîşhâd).<br>
<br>
I had in mind to consult our archives for I remembered that we (wit) <br>
touched upon this when discussing the Drus but have not had an extra-<br>
minute for that (terribel Inglish hear, I no))). But thank you for <br>
bringing this again. I find your suggestion quite plausible. So, <br>
Sunjahildi be it.<br>
<br>
BTW, do you have any idea of Ovida? Anything to do with haubiş?<br>
<br>
> *Sarus, *Sarila, *Sarula, man. Jord. Sarus; Wz. Sarilo; OIc. Sörli;<br>
> Lat. Sarus, a Gothic warlord; Go. sarwa, na.pl. `armour'.<br>
<br>
If true, it should be *Sarws, no? And diminutive - *Sarwila?<br>
<br>
> *Hamaşius, mwa., *Hamişeis, mja., *Hamişa, man., *Hamjis, mja. <br>
Jord.<br>
> Ammius; Wz. Hamido; OIc. Hamğir; Go. ga-hamon `put on, dress <br>
oneself<br>
> in'; OIc. hamr (gen. -s, pl. -ir) `skin, outward shape', OE homa, <br>
OHG<br>
> hamo `skin, clothes', OHG hemidi `clothing, long undershirt', <br>
OFries.<br>
> hemethe, OE hemeş.<br>
<br>
Right. I meant a posible Iranian etymology, ama "powerful" (I'm not <br>
sure about this, just saw it somewhere), and sar "head". But in the <br>
saga (and what Jordanes is retelling here was already a saga among <br>
the Goths) the names, if not originally Germanic, must have been <br>
already Germanized.<br>
<br>
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