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> Žan, hvan wairsist ist<br>
<br>
Žanuh, biže wairsist ist<br>
Žaruh, žan(ei) wairsist ist<br>
Jah žan, (swa)swe wairsist ist<br>
<br>
(Or any other combination of either 'žanuh', 'žaruh' or 'jah žan' +<br>
either 'biže', 'žan(ei)' or '(swa)swe'. 'žan' at the very beginning of<br>
a clause always means "when". As I mentioned in my previous post,<br>
'hvan' would only be used in a direct or indirect question (e.g.<br>
direct: "when will they come?"; indirect: "I don't know when they will<br>
come").<br>
<br>
> jah ni waihts hilpiž<br>
<br>
That's good. Equally acceptable alternatives: jah waihts ni hilpiž;<br>
jah ni hilpiž waihts.<br>
<br>
> Bristand swe in wunjai brusteis bagmis.<br>
<br>
The grammar looks fine to me, and you've got some good alliteration<br>
there. Alternatively, you could used the attested verb '(us)keinan'<wbr>:<br>
uskeinand swe in wunjai / in hlasein / miž fahedai brusteis/bristilons<br>
bagmis.<br>
<br>
> Žan, hvan ni faurhtei ju žanaseižs haldiž,<br>
<br>
žanuh, biže waihts faurhteino/agise (ju) žanaseižs/žanamais ni haldiž<br>
<br>
You've got a choice of word orders here. There is a tendency to place<br>
'ni' directly before the verb, but it's also not unusual to put it<br>
before words like 'waiht(s)' or 'žanaseižs/žanamais'<wbr>, either as well<br>
as or instead of before the verb. Optionally, 'ni' can be placed at<br>
the beginning of the clause with the verb directly after it.<br>
<br>
> driusand in glitmunjai drupans tainis<br>
<br>
Good. (Or: driusand glitmunjandans drupans tainis.)<br>
<br>
> ufarmaudjand žatei<br>
<br>
Good, or: ufarmunnond žammei<br>
<br>
> žlahsnanai wesun<br>
<br>
Either 'žlahsidai wesun' or 'žlahsnodedun'<wbr>.<br>
<br>
> fram žamma niujin<br>
<br>
Good.<br>
<br>
> ufarmaudjand žatei karanai wesun bi fara -<br>
<br>
ufarmaudjand žatei ins *faros/wratodaus kara was<br>
ufarmunnond žammei [...]<br>
<br>
> ufkunnun<br>
<br>
ufkunnand, weak class 3 [<br>
<a href="http://www.wulfila.be/lib/streitberg/1910/HTML/B076.html">http://www.wulfila.<wbr>be/lib/streitber<wbr>g/1910/HTML/<wbr>B076.html</a> ].<br>
<br>
> aina stika<br>
<br>
The attested phrase is 'in stika melis' "in a moment of time",<br>
litterally a "point of time", L 4:5 (I'm not sure whether this means<br>
"immediately, without delay" or "just for a moment, after which the<br>
vision disappeared) [<br>
<a href="http://www.wulfila.be/gothic/browse/text/?book=3&chapter=4">http://www.wulfila.<wbr>be/gothic/<wbr>browse/text/<wbr>?book=3&chapter=<wbr>4</a> ]. But here<br>
you could maybe use the accusative expressing duration of time 'stik<br>
melis' "for a moment". 'stiks' is presumed to be a masculine i-stem,<br>
because of cognates, although it's only attested in Gothic this once<br>
in the dative singular.<br>
<br>
> žo žwastiža mikiliston seinon,<br>
<br>
The possessive adjectives are only declined strong, and the<br>
superlative of 'mikils' is 'maists': žo maiston žwastiža seina;<br>
žwastiža seina žo maiston.<br>
<br>
> hveiland in žizai triggwein<br>
> žizaiei fairhvu gaskapjiž.<br>
<br>
I'd make this an accusative + infinitive construction: hveilan in<br>
stomin žatei fairhvu gaskapjiž "resting in the confidence that creates<br>
the world"; hveilan in trauainai sei fairhvu gaskapjiž "resting in the<br>
trust that creates the world".<br>
<br>
LN<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts@.<wbr>..> wrote:<br>
><br>
> The poet strikes again!<br>
> <br>
> Just kidding. But I've tried to translate a poem.<br>
> I just need your ideas about my word choices and ways to express.<br>
> <br>
> The original from which I translated is in swedish so now I will try<br>
> to translate the same one to english for you to understand.<br>
> The english translation is probably much mor correct and the gothic<br>
> is more freely translated.<br>
> <br>
> Gothic first:<br>
> <br>
> Jai žannu agliž<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Jai žannu agliž hvan bruteis bristand.<br>
> Duhvź sįinjįi wźzr?<br>
> Duhvź bindada alla gaķrnei unsara sō heitō<br>
> in žamma frusanin bįitrafalwin?<br>
> Hulžs was bruts sa alla wintrus.<br>
> Hva ist žata niujō, žatei taķriž jah spraggeiž?<br>
> Jai žannu agliž hvan bruteis bristand,<br>
> agliž žamma wahsjandin<br>
> jah žamma lukandin.<br>
> <br>
> Jai žannu aglus ist hvan drupans driusand.<br>
> Reirands fram karai kauruba eis hahand,<br>
> haftjand sik ana taina, swilland, gleidand -<br>
> Dalaž ins žinsai kaurus, hvaiwa kliggand.<br>
> Aglus wisan unwiss, faurhts jah skaidans,<br>
> Aglus ufkunnan diupein žo žinsandein jah haitandein,<br>
> nauh bileiban sitands jah žatain skudon -<br>
> aglus bileiban wiljan<br>
> jah driusan wiljan.<br>
> <br>
> Žan, hvan wairsist ist jah ni waihts hilpiž,<br>
> Bristand swe in wunjai brusteis bagmis.<br>
> Žan, hvan ni faurhtei ju žanaseižs haldiž,<br>
> driusand in glitmunjai drupans tainis<br>
> ufarmaudjand žatei žlahsnanai wesun fram žamma niujin<br>
> ufarmaudjand žatei karanai wesun bi fara -<br>
> ufkunnun aina stika žo žwastiža mikiliston seinon,<br>
> hveiland in žizai triggwein<br>
> žizaiei fairhvu gaskapjiž.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> And now, here's my affort to english translation:<br>
> <br>
> Yes it does hurt when sprouts/buds burst.<br>
> Why else would the spring hesitate?<br>
> Why would all our hot longing<br>
> be tied in the frozen bitterpale?<br>
> Hidden was the sprout the entire winter.<br>
> What's the new, tearing and blasting?<br>
> Yes it does hurt when sprouts burst,<br>
> hurting for the growing<br>
> and the closing<br>
> <br>
> Yes it's hard when dropps are falling.<br>
> Quaking by anxiety they're haning heavily,<br>
> clinging by the twig, swelling, gliding<br>
> the weight pulling them down, how they cling.<br>
> Hard to be uncertain, afraid and devided,<br>
> hard to feel the pulling and calling from the depth,<br>
> still remain sitting and just shiver<br>
> hard to wanting to stay<br>
> and wanting to fall<br>
> <br>
> Then, when it's worst and nothing helps,<br>
> bursting, like jubilation, the sprouts of the tree.<br>
> Then, when no fear no longer will hold<br>
> fall in a glitter the drops of the twig<br>
> forget that they were scared by the new<br>
> forget that they were anxious about the journey<br>
> feel for a second their greatest safety,<br>
> resting in the confidence<br>
> that creates the world<br>
> <br>
> Site of poeam<br>
> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/gutiska/glydian/poema.html">http://www.geocitie<wbr>s.com/gutiska/<wbr>glydian/poema.<wbr>html</a><br>
> <br>
> Swedish:<br>
> <a href="http://www.karinboye.se/verk/dikter/dikter/ja-visst-gor-det-ont.shtml">http://www.karinboy<wbr>e.se/verk/<wbr>dikter/dikter/<wbr>ja-visst-<wbr>gor-det-ont.<wbr>shtml</a><br>
><br>
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