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            <p>--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "llama_nom" <600cell@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> <br>
> Some comments on the 2nd stanza:<br>
> <br>
> > Jai žannu aglus ist hvan drupans driusand.<br>
> <br>
what about žannu? I'd like to make a difference between swedish 'ja' <br>
and 'ja visst'.<br>
<br>
> I think I'd make the adjective neuter, like this: 'Jai, aglu ist, <br>
žan<br>
> drupans driusand.'  Compare: hvaiwa aglu ist žaim hugjandam afar<br>
> faihau in žiudangardja gudis galeižan (Mk 10:24).  And I'd use 'žan'<br>
> or 'žanei' for "when", except where it's a direct or indirect <br>
question<br>
> - e.g. direct: hvan managans habaiž hlaibans' "how many loaves have<br>
> you got?" (Mk 8:5).  I can't find an example of an indirect question<br>
> with 'hvan' (that is, dependent on a verb meaning "ask", "know",<br>
> "understand"<wbr>, "discover", "prove"), but there are examples with <br>
other<br>
> interrogative pronouns: ak fražjandans hva sijai wilja fraujins "but<br>
> understanding what the will of the Lord is" (Eph 5:17).<br>
> <br>
that's probably a correct observation.<br>
<br>
> > Reirands fram karai kauruba eis hahand,<br>
> <br>
> Masculine nominative plural 'reirandans'<wbr>.<br>
> <br>
thnx<br>
<br>
> > haftjand sik ana taina, swilland, gleidand -<br>
> <br>
> haftjand sik taina/ansta (with dative and no preposition, e.g.<br>
> 'haftjandans godamma' "sticking to what is good" (R 12:9)).<br>
> <br>
> > Dalaž ins žinsai kaurus, hvaiwa kliggand.<br>
> <br>
> 'kaurei ins dalaž atžinsiž' - compare the combinations 'dalaž<br>
> atsteigan', 'dalaž atgaggan'.<br>
> <br>
> > Aglus wisan unwiss, faurhts jah skaidans,<br>
> <br>
> Again, I'd use neuter, "it is hard": 'Aglu unwiss wisan, jah faurhts<br>
> jah skaidans,'<br>
> <br>
is it necessary to use jah so many times? in swedish it should be <br>
enough to use it as i did, i.e. not befor faurht but bnefore skaidans.<br>
<br>
> > Aglus ufkunnan diupein žo žinsandein jah haitandein,<br>
> <br>
> You could use infinitives:<br>
> <br>
> aglu diupiža/diupein ufkunnan atžinsan jah athaitan<br>
> aglu diupižai/diupein gaumjan atžinsan jah athaitan<br>
> <br>
> The most common form is 'diupiža', but 'diupei' is also attested.<br>
> <br>
> > nauh bileiban sitands jah žatain skudon -<br>
> <br>
> swežauh nauh sitan jah žatainei reiran,<br>
> <br>
what's swežauh?<br>
what's the difference between žatain and žatainei?<br>
<br>
> *'skudon'? or *'skudjan' (OHG 'scuttan' > NHG 'schütten') or<br>
> *'skudison' (OHG 'scutisōn') or *'skutilon' (OHG 'scutilōn')?  Is <br>
the<br>
> double 'dd' in Swedish 'skudda' due to it being a loanword from West<br>
> Germanic (Low German 'schudden'), where gemination was the rule <br>
before<br>
> /j/.<br>
I'm not familiar with that word 'gemination'<wbr>. what's that?<br>
<br>
There's also a version with long [u:] in the root, represented<br>
> in MDu. 'schūderen' and NHG 'schaudern'.<br>
> <br>
> Alternatives: *'skakan', *'skilban'.<br>
> <br>
> > aglus bileiban wiljan<br>
> > jah driusan wiljan.<br>
> <br>
> aglu bileiban wiljan<br>
> jah driusan wiljan.<br>
> <br>
> I'd translate it the same way, except with neuter for the <br>
adjective. <br>
> We have a few other choices <br>
for "stay": 'wisan', 'gawisan', 'gastandan'.<br>
> <br>
> LN<br>
><br>
<br>
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