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            <p>Hi,<br>
<br>
I can as well suggest you read my opus where I try to find out the<br>
possible connections between Scandinavia, Wielbark and<br>
Chernyakov-Sintana de Mures. The Goths consisted of many groups of<br>
different origin from time to time, but still they had a common<br>
tradition/ethnic glue which I think was originally of religious<br>
character. Read 'The Well Spring of the Goths' available on Amazon and<br>
many other sites.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Ingemar<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Tore Gannholm <tore@...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
> I can recommed Anders Kaliff's book Gothis connections<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.stavgard.com/romaniron/goterna_/gothic/default.htm">http://www.stavgard<wbr>.com/romaniron/<wbr>goterna_/<wbr>gothic/default.<wbr>htm</a><br>
> <br>
> Tore<br>
> <br>
> 2 maj 2008 kl. 11.51 skrev Michal Cigan:<br>
> <br>
> > Hi,<br>
> > some times (maybe year/s) ago i saw a piece on this board<br>
> > treating of (or better linking to) the theory, that Goths<br>
> > did not came from Scandinavia, but rather they - or their<br>
> > group identity - were established only later and on another place;  <br>
> > from germanic tribes living beside roman limes (if I remember  <br>
> > correct the topic of the piece). Could someone remind me the source  <br>
> > of this theory; book, or maybe make correct this my opinion, if my  <br>
> > flashback is more or less wrong...<br>
> ><br>
> > Michal<br>
> ><br>
> > Fredrik <gadrauhts@.<wbr>..> wrote: Hi all. I hope that there  <br>
> > still are a few fellows here so this isn't<br>
> > totalt in vain.<br>
> ><br>
> > I though about words for civilization and verbs to describe it, like<br>
> > civilize.<br>
> ><br>
> > After I thought a while I came up with an idea which was based on the<br>
> > word un-mana-riggws which means smth like fierce, cruel, barbaric and<br>
> > took the oposite word mana-riggws to mean civilized, (mostly an<br>
> > oposite meaning of barbaric). As noun I used mana-riggwitha (sf). I'd<br>
> > like to know what riggws is and what it mean.<br>
> ><br>
> > Later I found out that I already translated the word 'civilized' but<br>
> > forgot about it. At that earlier time I used uf-hausjands as the<br>
> > meaning 'behaved'.<br>
> ><br>
> > I also think there's a connection between the words civilization and<br>
> > culture, both coz civilized countries/people have a higher culture.<br>
> > And the icelandic word has a connection. Right now I can't tell for<br>
> > sure but if I remember correct civilization is siğmenning or smth<br>
> > like that and siğa (a verb) means to bring up and menning (not sure<br>
> > if thats totally correct either) means culture, probably from a verb<br>
> > meaning 'to make a (behaved?) man of'<br>
> ><br>
> > Any ideas about this?<br>
> ><br>
> > What would the gothic word for the Cultural Revolution be?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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