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            <p>Logical place for emigrant Ostrogoths would be Visigothic Gaul (Languedoc<br>
was Gothic for quite a while after this).<br>
<br>
Quite a few appear to have taken service with the Empire and would<br>
presumably have been dispersed to the East or North Africa.<br>
<br>
Most, I would guess, simply stayed put in northern Italy; some as soldiers<br>
of the Empire, others as farmers, etc.  If any Gothic speaking communities<br>
lasted into the Byzantine period, I think we can assume that they 'became'<br>
Lombards after 568 (especially as the main Gothic settlement areas other<br>
than Ravenna were those most Lombardized, this seems the most likely place<br>
for the most Ostrogoths)<br>
<br>
We also have to remember that the population of Italy fell considerably<br>
during the reign of Justinian, from war, famine, and plague.  The<br>
Ostrogoths weren't immune to those factors so, likely, they had as sharp a<br>
drop (if not sharper) as everyone else.<br>
<br>
Ian Ragsdale wrote:<br>
> I can only imagine how the Ostrogothic warriors felt - without a<br>
> homeland, defeated, hated and feared across southern Europe - I can't<br>
> envision any particular place they would want to go.  However, I would<br>
> guess that they would be more inclined to venture north than back<br>
> east, which would make sense if some were absorbed into the Franks.<br>
> I'm not sure - would their shattered honor play a role in where they<br>
> chose to settle?<br>
><br>
> IMR<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:01 PM, OSCAR HERRERA <<a href="mailto:duke.co%40sbcglobal.net">duke.co@sbcglobal.<wbr>net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>> think they settled in southern austria and northern italy......dont<br>
>> think<br>
>> they settled in and around milan, but the other northern areas sound<br>
>> right.....<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="mailto:macmaster%40riseup.net">macmaster@riseup.<wbr>net</a> wrote: Wasn't there some World War II-era thesis<br>
>> that<br>
>> claimed that the Croatians<br>
>><br>
>> weren't Slavs but descendants of the Ostrogoths?<br>
>><br>
>> This sounds liek it might come from some similar pseudo-history.<br>
>><br>
>> TM<br>
>> gutdwala wrote:<br>
>>> According to Wikipedia, "with that final defeat,the remaining<br>
>>> Ostrogoths went back north and (re)settled in south Austria." I had<br>
>>> never heard this before, so I checked every book I could find at my<br>
>>> Uni's library. They all claimed the same thing's I've always heard,<br>
>>> that some joined the Franks, some kept their lands in northern Italy,<br>
>>> some went back to Scandinavia, and some were recruited into<br>
>>> Justinian's armies and sent to fight in the east. But no one ever<br>
>>> seems to cite sources or evidence for these claims, and no book<br>
>>> mentions all of these possibilities. So how much can we really say<br>
>>> about where the Ostrogoths eventually settled? What evidence do we<br>
>>> have and what do the sources say? Even Jordanes doesn't mention it.<br>
>>> Where are authors getting this information?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>><br>
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