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Hi!<br>
<br>
Just an impulsive idea!<br>
<br>
The chief of a Gothic household is a Frauja. In connection with his<br>
family he is Fadar (Sw. fader) so that is evidently the normal word.<br>
<br>
In Sw. kin, family with extension far back to ancestors is called 'ätt'.<br>
<br>
Could atta just be an honorary title on the oldest person of the<br>
family living - family/kin father, sw. ättefader, and analogous the<br>
mother= 'ättemoder'. This could be comparable with the Roman habit.<br>
<br>
Penzl connects atta with Asian shamanism suggesting , perhaps, a<br>
connection with ancestorcult.<wbr>Mayhap of Hunnish origin.<br>
<br>
Pick your choice!<br>
<br>
Ingemar<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Ian Ragsdale" <delvebelow@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> At one point I was working on a short paper RE: the use of "atta" in<br>
> the Gothic Lord's Prayer, but there seemed to be little etymology to<br>
> speak about with the word and futile to extrapolate on the point ad<br>
> nauseum. Everything I've read simply touts "atta" as a nursery word,<br>
> pointing out attested forms in many languages both IE and otherwise.<br>
> Lehmann's etymological dictionary has little else to say. Aithei just<br>
> looks to me like a feminized form with the dental stop assimilated to<br>
> a fricative to deal with the new vowel.<br>
> <br>
> I've always thought that Tucker's Etymological Dictionary of Latin<br>
> pointed out an interesting fact: "atta" in Roman times was used by old<br>
> men to refer to their seniors, as a sign of respect. So this "nursery<br>
> word" is also found in other cultures/times outside of baby talk.<br>
> <br>
> -IMR<br>
><br>
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