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<p>Hi group,<br>
<br>
I have some new thoughts about the etymology of the Greutungi and Tervingi.<br>
<br>
The Germanic root greut-, while basically meaning 'stone', is also found <br>
in greutiôn 'kettle, pan'. Now, we know that pans like these were among <br>
the first forms used for baking bread. Considering that the OCS hlebu is <br>
regarded to be a loan-word from Gothic (hlaib-), it seems that bread, or <br>
at least some special type of bread, was characteristic for the Goths in <br>
comparison with other peoples in the area, notably the Slavs who <br>
borrowed this word. The name Greutungi (or griutungôs) then could mean <br>
"those who make bread in pans", comparable to e.g. the Rugii "those who <br>
grow / eat rye".<br>
<br>
Even more comparable to the Rugii may the name Tervingi be, considering <br>
that terwôn is the ancestor of Dutch tarwe 'wheat' and English tare <br>
'ryegrass'. This divergence in meaning makes it difficult to say exactly <br>
what kind of crop the Tervingi were growing that could give them their <br>
name. I guess "wheat growers" is not exactly any strong identity marker, <br>
but if they brought with them the habit of growing rye from the Vistula <br>
region, the appellative "grass eaters" could be given to them by others <br>
who didn't know this seed as anything other than a weed.<br>
<br>
Thus, the names of these Gothic groups might come from agricultural <br>
practices, reminding us that their war-like records were indeed seen <br>
with the eyes of outsiders, and did not reflect the way of the common man.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Thorgeir<br>
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