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<p>Hello Fredrik,<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for your mail and explanations. You got what I meant, I love to see <br>
and detect similarities between languages, and their influence on others. It's a <br>
hobby that's growing I guess. But your examples were quite good as to picture <br>
the whole thing.<br>
<br>
Here in the Argentine, where we speak a particular medieval-like Spanish dialect, <br>
heavily influenced mostly by Italian and to a lesser extent indigenous and English <br>
expressions, such words are not that uncommon. "Alevoso" is used exactly as to <br>
depict an abusive situation, while "escanciar" is less often heard, but as it has <br>
been narrowed enough to mean only "whisky pouring into a glass", I find it logical <br>
to come from Gothic! Such knowledge of yours tells me that your Spanish <br>
studies have gone quite beyond the basics. Regarding guante, well, both examples <br>
match. I'd say anyway is a French loanword, just like "reloj" (horloge, <br>
"clock/watch"<wbr>). <br>
<br>
Regarding Gutiska Rada (right?), I'd love to receive some basic guidelines for <br>
Gothic expressions, such as common nouns, salutations, etc. And as to finish: <br>
What's Gothic for Paul? Could you also translate the adjective "grape-picker" <br>
(which happens to be my family name in Genoese)? Thanks a lot in advance.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Pablo<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts@.<wbr>..> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi!<br>
> <br>
> I'm sorry but I didn't get exactly what you meant but since I've <br>
> studied spanish have I noticed the gothic influence in it.<br>
> Sure is that gothic hadn't any great influence, arabic had way more.<br>
> But there are a few words in spanish from gothic origin.<br>
> And as you mention also a few names.<br>
> Among those I would add Alafuns/Alfonso.<br>
> <br>
> A word such as alevoso is most probably from gothic, cf. the verb <br>
> lewjan = betray. And the verb escanciar (which I guess only exist in <br>
> some dialects of spanish) comes from gothic skagkjan.<br>
> But about the word guante (cognate to swedish vante) I'm not sure.<br>
> Is it from gothic or is it a earlier loan from another germanic <br>
> language. The same word occur in italian as guanto and french as gant.<br>
> The portuguese word luva could probably come from gothic glofa <br>
> (cognate to english glove), with the same meaning. <br>
> <br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Pablo" <pittaluga@> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hello all,<br>
> > <br>
> > My name's Pablo, and I'm from Argentina. I'm a PR & Training man, <br>
> having <br>
> > Germanic languages as a hobby and interest.<br>
> > <br>
> > I've seen Gothic pages where was depicted as the missing link for <br>
> Germanic <br>
> > reconstruction, and observing its vocabulary noted that goes <br>
> halfway Germanic <br>
> > halfway Latin –due to simultaneous existence I guess-, i.e. "ahwa" <br>
> (water), <br>
> > "idjja" (past participle of go, quite similar to Spanish "ido"). My <br>
> mother tongue is <br>
> > Spanish, a language that was quite influenced by Visigoth from AD <br>
> 300 to AD <br>
> > 700, roughly the Visigoth rule in Spain. But even is Spanish <br>
> language studies <br>
> > Visigoth is kind of ignored. You can see the traces in Fernando <br>
> (Ferdinand), <br>
> > Rodrigo (Roderick), et cetera.<br>
> > <br>
> > I'd love to share thoughts and points of view on Gothic with you <br>
> all.<br>
> > <br>
> > Best,<br>
> > <br>
> > Pablo<br>
> ><br>
><br>
<br>
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