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<p>Hi Pablo!<br>
<br>
I must add an intressenting thing about the word escanciar.<br>
This is cognate to swedish skänka which means "give away" but it can <br>
also be used in a certain context as in "skänka i vin" which mean <br>
pour wine into a glass. I think this is similar to the meaning of <br>
escanciar.<br>
<br>
You probablöy mean Gutiska razda or so gutisko razda. Some suggest <br>
gutanisks instead of gutisks in nominative masculine form.<br>
<br>
About your name would I try to translate it, but I'm not sure it will <br>
be totaly correct.<br>
<br>
Paul is probably Paulus in gothic. I haven't found it yet even though <br>
I searched a little for it. If I find it later and it's smthelse I <br>
tell you.<br>
<br>
Your last name which you translate as "grape-picker" (which I by the <br>
way would say is a noun) could perhaps be smth like:<br>
Weinabasiharbisja.<br>
Maybe with alternative ending as: -harbisjareis, or -harbisjands.<br>
<br>
I could perhaps help you with what you want to know about some gothic <br>
nouns etc. But is it any special you want to learn?<br>
<br>
The most common form to greet is to say "hails" and follow by dative,<br>
e.g. Hails allaim (Hello all)<br>
<br>
Another usefull one is: Goleins, which you can make plural goleineis,<br>
and then add fram *your name in genitive*.<br>
E.g.<br>
<br>
Goleineis fram Frithureikis.<br>
<br>
means<br>
<br>
Greetings from Fredrik<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Pablo" <pittaluga@.<wbr>..> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello Fredrik,<br>
> <br>
> Thanks a lot for your mail and explanations. You got what I meant, <br>
I love to see <br>
> and detect similarities between languages, and their influence on <br>
others. It's a <br>
> hobby that's growing I guess. But your examples were quite good as <br>
to picture <br>
> the whole thing.<br>
> <br>
> Here in the Argentine, where we speak a particular medieval-like <br>
Spanish dialect, <br>
> heavily influenced mostly by Italian and to a lesser extent <br>
indigenous and English <br>
> expressions, such words are not that uncommon. "Alevoso" is used <br>
exactly as to <br>
> depict an abusive situation, while "escanciar" is less often heard, <br>
but as it has <br>
> been narrowed enough to mean only "whisky pouring into a glass", I <br>
find it logical <br>
> to come from Gothic! Such knowledge of yours tells me that your <br>
Spanish <br>
> studies have gone quite beyond the basics. Regarding guante, well, <br>
both examples <br>
> match. I'd say anyway is a French loanword, just like "reloj" <br>
(horloge, <br>
> "clock/watch"<wbr>). <br>
> <br>
> Regarding Gutiska Rada (right?), I'd love to receive some basic <br>
guidelines for <br>
> Gothic expressions, such as common nouns, salutations, etc. And as <br>
to finish: <br>
> What's Gothic for Paul? Could you also translate the <br>
adjective "grape-picker" <br>
> (which happens to be my family name in Genoese)? Thanks a lot in <br>
advance.<br>
> <br>
> Best wishes,<br>
> <br>
> Pablo<br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts@> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi!<br>
> > <br>
> > I'm sorry but I didn't get exactly what you meant but since I've <br>
> > studied spanish have I noticed the gothic influence in it.<br>
> > Sure is that gothic hadn't any great influence, arabic had way <br>
more.<br>
> > But there are a few words in spanish from gothic origin.<br>
> > And as you mention also a few names.<br>
> > Among those I would add Alafuns/Alfonso.<br>
> > <br>
> > A word such as alevoso is most probably from gothic, cf. the verb <br>
> > lewjan = betray. And the verb escanciar (which I guess only exist <br>
in <br>
> > some dialects of spanish) comes from gothic skagkjan.<br>
> > But about the word guante (cognate to swedish vante) I'm not sure.<br>
> > Is it from gothic or is it a earlier loan from another germanic <br>
> > language. The same word occur in italian as guanto and french as <br>
gant.<br>
> > The portuguese word luva could probably come from gothic glofa <br>
> > (cognate to english glove), with the same meaning. <br>
> > <br>
> > --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Pablo" <pittaluga@> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hello all,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > My name's Pablo, and I'm from Argentina. I'm a PR & Training <br>
man, <br>
> > having <br>
> > > Germanic languages as a hobby and interest.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > I've seen Gothic pages where was depicted as the missing link <br>
for <br>
> > Germanic <br>
> > > reconstruction, and observing its vocabulary noted that goes <br>
> > halfway Germanic <br>
> > > halfway Latin –due to simultaneous existence I guess-, <br>
i.e. "ahwa" <br>
> > (water), <br>
> > > "idjja" (past participle of go, quite similar to <br>
Spanish "ido"). My <br>
> > mother tongue is <br>
> > > Spanish, a language that was quite influenced by Visigoth from <br>
AD <br>
> > 300 to AD <br>
> > > 700, roughly the Visigoth rule in Spain. But even is Spanish <br>
> > language studies <br>
> > > Visigoth is kind of ignored. You can see the traces in Fernando <br>
> > (Ferdinand), <br>
> > > Rodrigo (Roderick), et cetera.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > I'd love to share thoughts and points of view on Gothic with <br>
you <br>
> > all.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Best,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > Pablo<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
<br>
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