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<p>ik im ahtauliff jeram....i am 18 years.....ik im niunliff jeram...i am nineteen years old...<br>
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--- On Fri, 12/19/08, Johann von Messer <<a href="mailto:furry_von_messer%40yahoo.com">furry_von_messer@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> From: Johann von Messer <<a href="mailto:furry_von_messer%40yahoo.com">furry_von_messer@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [gothic-l] Hallo hallo!<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a><br>
> Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 11:39 AM<br>
> I'm really excited to be in this group. I've been<br>
> longing to speak<br>
> with another person who is studying Gothic (as opposed to<br>
> resurrecting<br>
> Joseph Wright or Wilhelm Streitberg from the dead). Dead<br>
> languages<br>
> have always been my specialty it seems. But the harder<br>
> things,<br>
> phrases, what have you always befuddle me. So maybe I can<br>
> get some<br>
> help here, as well as offer everything I know to this<br>
> community! :D<br>
> <br>
> I spend a lot of my free time reading my countless books<br>
> and websites<br>
> on Gothic, trying to bring modern English and Gothic<br>
> together. Such as<br>
> dates, years, names, etc. Basically, I'd like to type<br>
> out some of the<br>
> things that I have translated (or believe I have, I've<br>
> learned quite a<br>
> bit just looking through this group that my books never<br>
> shared).<br>
> <br>
> Saei Sokeiž Gajukeiž<br>
> (( As close as I could get to )) Who tries wins<br>
> <br>
> žuk ahmin meinin nima<br>
> I bring/take you into my heart (( Obviously not hairto ))<br>
> <br>
> Jah aftra laistand eis žizai saiwalai afar<br>
> (( A line from a song, though this looks rather horribly<br>
> done to me now ))<br>
> And again they chase after the mind/sense/whatever you<br>
> translate 'Sinn' as<br>
> <br>
> Liuta is<br>
> You are a hypocrite<br>
> <br>
> Jabai žu gaurs sijais, žau gaurs sijau<br>
> If you are sad, then I am sad<br>
> <br>
> Fraletiž žamma ansau wiganis<br>
> Set free the God of War, Let the God of War roam/free<br>
> <br>
> Sa airus Iohannis im<br>
> I am the messenger of John/Johann<br>
> <br>
> Andnam žrins bokos<br>
> I received three books<br>
> <br>
> Arait ain(hw)arjizuh fraleweiž<br>
> Aryte betrays all<br>
> <br>
> Arait sa fijands ist<br>
> Aryte is the enemy<br>
> <br>
> Andweihats žo frawaurht<br>
> Fight against the corruption<br>
> <br>
> This is where I have major issues and need more than just<br>
> corrections:<br>
> <br>
> Im (jere ahtautaihun)<wbr>/(ahtautaihunwin<wbr>trus) suns (jere<br>
> niuntaihun)/<wbr>(niuntaihunwintr<wbr>us)<br>
> I am eighteen years old, soon nineteen. (( When looking<br>
> this stuff up,<br>
> I found many examples, but never any that fit, so I<br>
> modified them as<br>
> best as I could to fit here. What do you think or am I just<br>
> being<br>
> annoyingly backwards? It appears to me that Gothic does not<br>
> have a<br>
> passive past. But I'm assuming the sentence can be past<br>
> by saying<br>
> 'was' instead of 'am.' Let's see... ))<br>
> <br>
> Wairžaida/Warž gabaurans Faibruarjus .ie.<br>
> (fimftataihunda)<wbr>, (( can't<br>
> type the numbers in here)) .900+900+100+<wbr>90. (žusundi jah<br>
> niun hunda<br>
> jah niuntehund)<br>
> I was born on February 15, 1990<br>
> (( I know a ton of genetive should be thrown in the<br>
> numbers, but I'm<br>
> really stumped on it. Excited to see though how many I got<br>
> right. <:D ))<br>
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