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Hi Johann!<br>
<br>
It is as far I can see not a question of definite article but just a <br>
clarification of what yoy mean with the shepher, which shepherd. <br>
<br>
Hardeis is like Sw. herden already in definite form (herde,-n) since <br>
it comes in the end, not in front. The good, den gode tells just <br>
which shepherd, herde. In Sw. accordingly 'herden-den gode'or 'den <br>
gode herden', but indefinite it is 'en god herde', 'a good shepherd'.<br>
This is a great similarity between Gothic and Scandinavian languages.<br>
<br>
>From a non linguist<br>
Ingemar<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "Johann von Messer" <br>
<furry_von_messer@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Also, can someone please explain to me the very weird (to me)<br>
> placements of definite articles? In one of my books is the <br>
dedication<br>
> "Qenai meinai žizai liuboston" which is obviously "To my dearest<br>
> wife." But that is the definite article doing in there, yet no<br>
> preposition? I have seen this is a few other places such as<br>
> <br>
> Ahma sa weiha - The Holy Spirit<br>
> Hardeis sa goša - the good shepherd<br>
> "...ibai aufto distairai wein žata niujo žans balgins." - "...lest<br>
> perchance the new wine burst the bottles."<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> There's also this that I have trouble grasping from Mark 4:5<br>
> "anžaružžan gadraus ana stainahamma, žarei ni haibada airža managa,<br>
> jah suns urrann in žizei ni haibada diupaizos airžos"<br>
> "And another fell on a stony place, where there was not much soil, <br>
and<br>
> soon rose up because of not having depth of earth."<br>
> (("and another fell on stony place, where not had soil much, and <br>
soon<br>
> rose up because not had deep of soil")) Why is airža in the genitive<br>
> at the end? Is it because of the phrase 'in žizei?' And if so, why<br>
> does 'in' make the article genitive?<br>
> <br>
> Also, I'm thinking about translating a Christmas song or two, just <br>
for<br>
> the hell of it. Should I do the translated, traditional English<br>
> version of Silent Night or the original 1816 German lyrics?<br>
><br>
<br>
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