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<p>Hi Ernesto,<br>
<br>
Funny you should post this connection. Two months ago I visited Spain<br>
and made some research with aid of among else an female archaeology<br>
professor in Barcelona. It was mostly in Catalonia but I had use also<br>
for more material and hence I also came across among else just these<br>
very images and other in this church. Their meaning however, as I<br>
understand them, is rather Arian which is, of course, close to<br>
pre-Christian.<wbr>The moon goddess was vital for the Goths in the old<br>
religion and the Christian Mary is just another representation of a<br>
moon goddess via Isis and Harpokrates in the Serapion cult. The sun in<br>
this case is God - remember the birthday of Christ is the birthday of<br>
Sol Invictus, the emperor, the birthday of Mithras. The moon in the<br>
shape of the lying crescent appears later as sign for the Madonna on<br>
the Crescent just in the former Visigothic areas. Hence that picture<br>
represents Mary. There are as well a number of rude peacocks who<br>
together with the tree of life also represent Mary. I reckon the<br>
church was sacred to her. I have been working on an article about a<br>
Swedish rune stone that is just being printed and will be published<br>
within a week or so, and in that one I have extensively treated the<br>
Mary symbolism and specially so in connection with Theoderic the<br>
Great. It will appear in the Swedish magazine "Historieforum-<wbr>Tidskrift<br>
för historisk debatt" nr.2, and it is equipped with an extensive<br>
English summary. Books and magazines from this publisher may be<br>
ordered at www.historieforum.<wbr>se. Until publishing I can not reveal<br>
more about the content but to mention the theme that is very early<br>
Christinaity in Sweden.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Ingemar<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Ernesto Garcia <theudimer@.<wbr>..> wrote:<br>
><br>
> There is a very intersting a link:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.asatru.es/paginas/Quintanilla%20basilica.htm">http://www.asatru.<wbr>es/paginas/<wbr>Quintanilla%<wbr>20basilica.<wbr>htm</a><br>
> <br>
> This is a religous construction made by visigohts in Spain, late in<br>
680-690. In thin time, they were catholic, and draws attention, put <br>
sun and moon in a church.<br>
> <br>
> because the Councils of Toledo had warned about the survival of<br>
paganism in people, I dont undertand why are there the two symbols par<br>
excellence of ancient paganism in a church.<br>
> <br>
> sun is feminine and moon, male,to the Goths until such time as the<br>
late seventh century, and I think we've got reason to believe that <br>
Wulfilas changed the Bible at his convenience. linguistic science here<br>
does not help us in anthropology<br>
> <br>
> And another question: paganism might not have disappeared among the<br>
population goth.   <br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
><br>
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