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<p>Hi Authari!<br>
<br>
I am glad you could use my suggestion. Thank you for your very<br>
thorough report about the last results in the Crimea!<br>
<br>
My very best wishes!<br>
Ingemar<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "authari" <authari@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dear Ingemar<br>
> Thank you for information.<br>
> Just some notices. Your etimolomology fits situation very well.<br>
> Shulanda is on a plateau near mountain pass through rock perimeter.<br>
> This pass id blocked by fortress wall of rubble stone. There is also a<br>
> concentration of stone constructions with Late Roman pottery. Shulanda<br>
> is only 2-3 kilometers from Eski-Kermen â€" Byzantine fortress built in<br>
> 6-7 cc. Some kilometers to the West from Shulanda excavated<br>
> cemeteries Saharnaja Golovka, Inkerman and Chornaja rechka with<br>
> cremations and other Germanic features.<br>
> Some notices<br>
> It was surprising for me to read about Germanic origin of Alusta<br>
> toponim because it has very good greek explanation. Aluston and<br>
> Gorzubitae were build by Justinian the Great and are inside an area of<br>
> distribution of cemeteries Type Suuk-su (with some Germanic features).<br>
> As for the Uskut it is outside Gothic area (most eastern cemetery of<br>
> this type at South Coast partly excavated by Lysenko and Teslenko two<br>
> years ago at Semidvorje â€" several kilometers to the east from<br>
> Alushta). Kurtiev is never mentioned in works of any serious<br>
> scientist; he is not researcher but story writer. Superanskaya’s <br>
> collection of toponims (it is not a map, no map provided) is of almost<br>
<br>
> no value â€" all of it taken from popular books and turistic maps, even<br>
> I know more. Crimean toponimics is not lost â€" almost all of it were<br>
> collected by recently dead Bel’ansky. He put several thousands of it<br>
> on the map (I have a copy, sorry it is still unpublished)<wbr>.<br>
> Tatarian onomastics are extremely surprising mixture. Now among most<br>
> popular names is Marlen (Marx-Lenin)<wbr>, Lemara (Lenin-Marx) and many of<br>
> turcic, Arabian, Slavic, Caucasian, Persian, Cenral Asian origin.<br>
> Local bureau of passport registration gone crazy when they had<br>
> repatriated. Some of it has no uniform pronunciation (several<br>
> variants). It was said about Gafrid.<br>
> <br>
> As for the archeological evidences of Crimean goths. There are near<br>
> one hundred cemeteries of 6-9 cc AD (some of it started even in late<br>
> 4th century) known as catacomb cemetries of type Suuk-su and disposed<br>
> in the South coast and SW Crimea (to the west from Alma river).<br>
> Let you turn to publications of A.I. Ajbabin. (he had excavated<br>
> Luchistoje, Eski-kermen, Bakla and some more sites and issued some<br>
> pornographies and plenty of articles.<br>
> More than that two cemetries with cremations and weapons of 4-5 cc AD<br>
> (Ay-Todor near Oreanda and Chatyr-Dag near Alushta) are Germanic but<br>
> not Gothic (may be herulian). Near Partenites (between Yalta and<br>
> Alushta) they had excavated Late Roman sanctuary Aligora with bif<br>
> fireplace, crashed glass vessel, terra sigilata and hand made pottery<br>
> dated by coins of Gallian usurpers (Tetric etc). It was possible<br>
> German mercenaries or pirates.<br>
> Ay-Todor excavated and published in several articles of Orlov in 80-ies.<br>
> Chatyr-Dag are receintly published as a book<br>
> Several cemeteries with cremations are also excavated or found around<br>
> Chersones (now all of it are robbed).<br>
> Germans at Kerch peninsula is a separate tale; now I don’t want<br>
touch it.<br>
> <br>
> Mangup.<br>
> Archeological expedition of Tavrian National univ. (Simferopol)<br>
> excavates this site for decades. Very few material is published.<br>
> Dissertation of prof. Alexander Gertsen about fortifications system<br>
> (Russian lang.) issued in 1990 now is accessible via internet- if<br>
> anybody need I will find the link Last years we get material which<br>
> proved that fortress was built not at the time of Justinian but<br>
> earlier â€"V century. Settlement at Mangup plateau with Late Roman<br>
> material existed even in the and of IV c AD. Material from Lagernaya<br>
> Balka gives except pottery, amphorae (mostly imported) terra sigilata,<br>
> coins and animal bones also some fibulae of pure Chernjahov type.<br>
> There are several catacomb cemetries of 4-9 cc at the outskirts of<br>
> Mangup. I had excavated some. Two months ago finished works of<br>
> Sidorenko at cemetery of 6-8 cc near Khodzha-sala.<br>
> Most important cemetery is Almalyk â€" it gives rich comlices of late 4<br>
> â€" late 8 cc AD. Ther are some graves with luxury finds of type<br>
> Untersiebenbrunn. It even not only similar â€" some is identical. Here<br>
> also fount one cremation grave, two kurgans and horse graves (similar<br>
> to Djurso cemetery near Anapa â€" which belonged as they think to<br>
> tetraxites). We found there also some swords (2 short and 2 spatha),<br>
> many arrowheads of hunnic type and plates of bone for bows.<br>
> One spath with silber buckles was fount in a separate pit inside<br>
> chamber grave â€" it was hidden.<br>
> Two years I have found in a grave of early 6 c. an umbo (shield-boss)<br>
> of type very close to Horula. Seems like swords was not rare here<br>
> â€" there are many pieces of it found with a flintstones in sets for<br>
> ignition, but it was not common to put it inside grave. This fact is<br>
> surprised a bit because this population was alano-gothic mixture and<br>
> for alans swords in graves are common. <br>
> Materials of near 100 graves of Almalyk and some nearest cemetries of<br>
> this type is now processed by Dr. Magdalena Manczynska (Lodz) and this<br>
> year I hope will be published as a catalogue in Germany. <br>
> RGZM taken samples of 30 skeletons of DNA from Almalyk â€" soon we will<br>
> know results <br>
> I have many publications in PDF (like Chatyr-Dag, Sacharnaya Golovka<br>
> (Sovkhoz 10) etc.<br>
> If anybody need it I can put it on rapidshare. Sorry it is Russian<br>
> language.<br>
> <br>
> The best book about Goths in Ukraine and Crimea is MB Schukin “Gotskij<br>
> Put’” â€" “Gothish way” â€" in it you can find almost all<br>
bibliography.<br>
> <a href="http://rapidshare.com/files/85431329/Shukin_Gotish_way.pdf.html">http://rapidshare.<wbr>com/files/<wbr>85431329/<wbr>Shukin_Gotish_<wbr>way.pdf.html</a><br>
> <br>
> I have made a website about Mangup excavations <br>
> It has English version. <a href="http://mangexp.narod.ru/index.html">http://mangexp.<wbr>narod.ru/<wbr>index.html</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Some photos from Almalyk<br>
> Glass bowl from chamber grave 2 (5th century)- 3D reconstruction<br>
> <a href="http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9185/glassmiswh1.jpg">http://img167.<wbr>imageshack.<wbr>us/img167/<wbr>9185/glassmiswh1<wbr>.jpg</a><br>
> <br>
> Artificially deformed scull from Chamber grave 191 (early 6 cent)<br>
> <a href="http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5479/scull1lm3.jpg">http://img261.<wbr>imageshack.<wbr>us/img261/<wbr>5479/scull1lm3.<wbr>jpg</a><br>
> <br>
> Inside a chamber grave<br>
> <a href="http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1172/ksjuqj4.jpg">http://img261.<wbr>imageshack.<wbr>us/img261/<wbr>1172/ksjuqj4.<wbr>jpg</a><br>
> <br>
> Gold anthropomorphic plates (V c AD)<br>
> <a href="http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8719/plaquesqw4.jpg">http://img86.<wbr>imageshack.<wbr>us/img86/<wbr>8719/plaquesqw4.<wbr>jpg</a><br>
> <br>
> Best wishes<br>
> Serge<br>
><br>
<br>
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