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<p>I believe it is instructive to note that the "Basileic Gets" were reported in antiquity and the Voyevode institution remained active in Slavic feuds such as Carantania/Carinthi<wbr>a, where it meant ruler until 13-th Century. <br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Carinthia">http://en.wikipedia<wbr>.org/wiki/<wbr>Duchy_of_<wbr>Carinthia</a><br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince%27s_Stone">http://en.wikipedia<wbr>.org/wiki/<wbr>Prince%27s_<wbr>Stone</a><br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke%27s_Chair">http://en.wikipedia<wbr>.org/wiki/<wbr>Duke%27s_<wbr>Chair</a><br>
Association with king/duke is circumstantial. It is about the same meaning(translation<wbr>) as the greek "anakós cchein"-see post. Since the Slavic 'connection' (chieftain) has not this meaning, it is useless for our purposes. Anyway it can't yield Gothic Woden. That incorrect meaning in Slavic made the Slavic historians from Slovenia to ignore this easy translation also. <br>
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It is very likely that this institution was copied everywhere, including in the Roman Empire, where the Imperator has the function of ruler. Caeser's account of the cult of Hermes(usually confused with Apollo as protector of travellers), Caesar himself a "Iulius", indicates the significant spread of this religion in the non Roman world outside the Scandza/Dacia axis. <br>
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Remember that Trojans worshiped Apollo and the genealogic lineage of the Gothic kings goes back to Troy, which may be important for understanding the anses/'anakes' institution which made the king a God and therefore his land "Gothaland" yielding "Goth" (much easier than a misspell of Woden). <br>
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The most important consequence is that we may copy back from Eddas the non-Greek philosophy of Apollo (?) relying on complementarity (the twins ! ). <br>
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--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "gotenfreund" <ekinzel@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
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> I don't think the Slavic etymology is as absurd as you make it sound.<br>
> <br>
> 1. There is a semantic (and developmental) equivalent in the Germanic languages: German Herzog, which is attested in Old Saxon, Old High German, and Old English (and possibly others of which I am unaware). It originally meant "army" + "puller, tugger, attracter" (sorry for bad translation)<wbr>. So, "war leader" or "chieftain" in its archaic meaning, it later became, and is now, a hereditary title in German: "Duke".<br>
> <br>
> 2. nouns formed on the model "voiyevod" are common in Slavic: peshechod, lit. "go by foot", i.e. "pedestrian"<wbr>; listopad, lit. "leaf-falling"<wbr>, i.e. "October"; Samoyed, lit. "self-eater"<wbr>, i.e. "cannibal", for the Russians thought the Samoyeds were cannibals when the first encountered them.<br>
> <br>
> 3. Your theory would need to explain how a Romanian term came into use in Kiev and Novgorod. Did the Romanians have such an influence on the Russian language, as well as all other Slavic languages?<br>
> <br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, "dciurchea" <dciurchea@> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Everybody is aware of this slavic "translation" which makes no sense at all. The office is of King/Basileus not colonel.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > --- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroup<wbr>s.com</a>, Ivan Kotliarov <lrpg@> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > In latin the equivalent is Dominus and Voievod(Voyevoda) - in romanian<br>
> > > - meaning "I allow you=Voie va dau(a da voie==to allow; va=to you ",<br>
> > > fitting the Greek Anakes as eplained by Plutarch, abreviated as<br>
> > > Voda/Wodan. <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Sorry, this is absolutely incorrect - Voievod came form Slavic<br>
> > > Voyevoda - Voye-Voda military leader (literally "one who conducts the<br>
> > > warriors")<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Best wishes,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Ivan<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
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