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      <p>I do not think it could have been dragm based on the analogy with bagm and westgermanic baum. Think about north germanic bağm. Then dream would have been drağmur in icelandic which it's not. It's draumur.<br>
The older form would perhaps have been draugmaz which in gothic would've yielded draums.<br>
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--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>, Grsartor@... wrote:<br>
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> About the likely Gothic word for "dream": this came up some years ago and  <br>
> there was actually some acrimony (!) between champions of the two suggested  <br>
> words "draum" and "dragm". I do not know enough to take sides, though I can <br>
> at  least see "dragm" would have analogies in the Gothic for tree and for <br>
> tear:  bagm and tagr, as opposed, e.g., to Old English (and modern) beam and  <br>
> tear.<br>
>  <br>
> Gerry T.<br>
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    margin-bottom: 20px;
    padding: 0px;
  }

  #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a {
    font-size: 130%;
    text-decoration: none;
  }

  #ygrp-sponsor #ov li {
    font-size: 77%;
    list-style-type: square;
    padding: 6px 0;
  } 

  #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0 0 0 8px;
  }

  #ygrp-text {
    font-family: Georgia;
  }

  #ygrp-text p {
    margin: 0 0 1em 0;
  }

  #ygrp-text tt {
    font-size: 120%;
  }

  #ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
    border-right: none !important; 
  } 
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