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<p>Hailai.<br>
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The Gothic for a berry was "basi", with plural "basja", a neuter noun like "badi" (= a bed). We know this because it appears in the compound word weinabasja (wineberries) for grapes in Mat 7:16 and Luke 6:44. I cannot help with the first part of "raspberry" except perhaps to make a remark relevant to what Ingemar and Thomas said, when they mentioned Dutch braam and German Broombeer: something might come of researching the origin of the English words "broom", which is used for a kind of plant, and "bramble", which I am told is cognate with OHG bramo.<br>
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Gerry T.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ingemar Nordgren <<a href="mailto:ingemar%40nordgren.se">ingemar@nordgren.se</a>><br>
To: gothic-l <<a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Sent: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:37<br>
Subject: [gothic-l] Re: On which base would you construct a word for raspberry?<br>
<br>
There is a dubble etymology here. Sw. björnbär was former also brambär and <br>
brombär (German Broombeere); as buschname 1638; as berry name Linneus 1732. Cf <br>
Eng. bear berry 'mjölon'; the stem bera-, 'bear', also seems to be part of Got. <br>
bairabagms, 'mulberry tree, whose fruits remind of the björnbär. Cf. same double <br>
meaning with Lat. morum and that Engl. mulberry in dial. is björnbär. Loewe, <br>
Germ. Pflanzennamen p.13 claims instead a folksetymological connection with with <br>
the stem for bear but the real connection should be the stem bher' to be <br>
pointed, or sharp´referring tom the points on the bush.<br>
<br>
To join the majority here why not use bairaberries? It is at least Gothic.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Ingemar<br>
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--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>, "thomasruhm" <thomas@...> wrote:<br>
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> There is no sole source for raspberry in the germanic languages. Maybe the <br>
dutch word 'braam' could be 'brahm', or something similar. The north germanic <br>
languages got the word for bear as the first part.<br>
><br>
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