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<p>i would just like to imput something that maybe someone mite be more up to date on....im talking about the the ameican movie, conan the barbarian starring arnold swarzenegger......just curious, but how true is this movie.....if you follow it it says conan was like a celtic person, that was supposedly captured by germanic renegades and then let go by his captives.....so furthur into the movie conan and his friends are hired by this king named osiric, which im thinking is a gothic cheiftain, to rescue his daughter....also the friends of conan are of asian heritage which indicates this occurred in or around the black sea area, north of the balkans....any ideas about this movie....<br>
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--- On Sun, 5/13/12, Decebal-Radu C <<a href="mailto:dciurchea%40yahoo.com">dciurchea@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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From: Decebal-Radu C <<a href="mailto:dciurchea%40yahoo.com">dciurchea@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: [gothic-l] Re: identification of Flutausis as Cogaeanus<br>
To: <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 4:39 PM<br>
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recently a youtube channel contains a story : "Navigatori care dispar, director Iancu Moscu, 1976" i.e. "Sailors disappearing",<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DBWgGrrmU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DBWgGrrmU</a><br>
which tells the story of raftsmen on Bistriza/Siret, the swifty river "whirling" into Danube. I identified this river as Iordanes' Flutausis because of Floating=lat.flutare i.e. the eng. rafting.<br>
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The bussiness dissapeared after the 1960's because of a dam, the Bicaz dam(<a href="http://www.neamt.ro/Date_gen/Bicaz/Lac_Izv_Muntelui.html">http://www.neamt.ro/Date_gen/Bicaz/Lac_Izv_Muntelui.html</a>).<br>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCRGL0gf4Fo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCRGL0gf4Fo</a><br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmEIlGcBdLM&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmEIlGcBdLM&feature=related</a><br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqLeN6xvW_0&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqLeN6xvW_0&feature=related</a><br>
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--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>, "dciurchea" <dciurchea@...> wrote:<br>
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> "In the land of Scythia to the westward dwells, first of 33<br>
> all, the race of the Gepidae, surrounded by great and<br>
> famous rivers. For the Tisia flows through it on the<br>
> north and northwest, and on the southwest is the great<br>
> Danube. On the east it is cut by the Flutausis, a swiftly<br>
> eddying stream that sweeps whirling into the Ister's<br>
> waters. Within these rivers lies Dacia, encircled by the 34<br>
> lofty Alps as by a crown." Jordannes:V <br>
> (The Project Gutenberg eBook, The Origin and Deeds of the Goths, by<br>
> Jordanes, Translated by Charles C. Mierow <br>
> <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/14809">http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/14809</a> : V) <br>
> <br>
> The name of the river should be Plautausis (i.e. in modern <br>
> Romanian 'plutashi', eng. raftsmen). <br>
> Indeed, this river which today starts in the mountains as Bistritza <br>
> and later as Siret down to the Danube was used by raftsmen until <br>
> 1969 to convey timber down to Danube and therefore may be taken <br>
> as "Plutashi">>Plauta(u)si(s), the border of Gepidia with Caucoensi. <br>
> According to a decent map derived from Ptolemy <br>
> (<a href="http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/macedonia_1849.jpg">http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/macedonia_1849.jpg</a>) the <br>
> name of this river is "Cogaeonus", i.e. a name related to the Getic <br>
> sacred mountain Kogaion. <br>
> The term "koga" is used locally today as an insult for the <br>
> strangers, foreigners (not in dictionaries); the official name is <br>
> Neamtz(usually denoting a german; the word is actually formed <br>
> starting from the root "neam"=stock), as an euphemism for foreigner, <br>
> since today there is a small ucrainean community there; perhaps in <br>
> antiquity Starbon(7:3:5) was told about the "Kogaionon" the border. <br>
> <br>
> I am glad to learn that the toponimic transcripted by Jordannes was <br>
> in fact genuine Romanian (i.e. Wallachian), as with Galtis on Alutha.<br>
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