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<p>-mund in ga-mund is equivalent to English "mind" (in OE gemynd), Latin mens, ment-. The mund in Germanic names however is cognate with Latin manus, hand, with a sense of "protection/protector", an figuratve use of the primary sense "hand" derived from idioms such as "place in your hands" "take in hand".<br>
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--- In <a href="mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>, Tim O'Neill <scatha@...> wrote:<br>
><br>
> David Salo wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Matþaius melida:<br>
> > <br>
> > >I think the ala- prefix is definitely right. The<br>
> > >meaning All-god would certainly not contrast with the Goths' practice of<br>
> > >grandiose names. But I have trouble seeing how they would incorporate<br>
> > >Deus into their native name. Rather, looking first at possible Gothic<br>
> > >(or unattested Gothic) elements, it could be *thiw- or *thiu-, meaning<br>
> > >perhaps custom, law, or virtue (OE theaw), subjugation, crushing or<br>
> > >conquering (OE theow-an), or perhaps be in some way connected with<br>
> > >*thiud- people/tribe.<br>
> > <br>
> > Or thius "servant", OE theow, an element sometimes used (cf. the name<br>
> > of Beowulf's father Ecgtheow "Sword-servant", Go. !Agjathius).<br>
> <br>
> I think I like that idea even beter - making the Greuthugian chief's<br>
> name 'Alhathius' (temple-servant). Some say 'Alatheus' is actually an <br>
> Iranian name, which makes him a Sarmatian or Alan. His companion and <br>
> co-leader of the Greuthugnian refugees of 376 AD is Saphrax, which <br>
> certainly seems to be a Sarmato-Alanic name. I think David's hypothesis <br>
> gives his name a perfectly good Gothic etymology.<br>
> <br>
> How about this one: in his part of the war against the Huns in 376<br>
> Athanaric ('*Athanareik(s)') sent an advance party of Tervingian<br>
> warriors east over the Dneister to scout for the advancing Hunnic<br>
> army. It was led by Munderic and Lagariman.<br>
> <br>
> '-mund' is a common Germanic final nymic element (eg 'Sigemund') and<br>
> is found elsewhere as a initial element (there was a Frankish chief<br>
> in the fifth century who was also called Munderic). Is it related<br>
> to the Gothic 'gamunds' = remembrance? Is this chief therefore<br>
> '*Mundareik(s)'? The '-man' element of the second name suggests<br>
> an obvious meaning, but the initial 'Lagari-' element has me <br>
> stumped. All I can think of is the verb 'lagjan' = to lay, to<br>
> lay down. But I can't see any obvious way this gives the name<br>
> recorded.<br>
> <br>
> Any ideas?<br>
> <br>
> Tim O'Neill<br>
> Tasmanian Devil<br>
><br>
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