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<p>Well, in spite of the fact that those heruls were not entirely svears (they were mixed with many other goths and sarmatians) coming from Illiria, I must repeat my doubt: thingi (old gutnish), so how is "thing" in wulfila's gothic?<br>
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> i thought alot of them or their relatives live in southern sweden...gothenburg, vasterland, etc.....<br>
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> Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Gothic thing<br>
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> The Gutes did not live in Scandinavia. They lived and still live on the island Gotland in the middle of the Baltic Sea.<br>
> They concluded a trade and peace agreement with the immigrant Svear (Heruls) on the Scandinavian peninslula about 550 CE<br>
> The Gutna Allthingi is very old.<br>
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> > Sai! My wife and me are writting a novel (half fiction) about IV century goths. Our question is how would be the name of the best known common germanic "thing" as the gathering of the kunja. If there was a "Thing of all gutes" in Scandinavia, such similar name does exist in gothic language?<br>
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