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<p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div><span style="font-family: Georgia;font-size: 16px;">The practice of killing the elderly was still alive among the Serbs in 19. century, practice known as Lapot. Some Serbs lived among the Germans, they are known as Serbs of Luzica (Lausic or Lausitz); this could be a connection.</span><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 13px;font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color: transparent;font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;font-size: 16px;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;font-family: Georgia;background-color: transparent;font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family:
Georgia;font-size: 16px;">Regards,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 13px;font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color: transparent;font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color: transparent;font-family: Georgia;font-size: 16px;">Amer</span><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Thomas Chelmowski <the_lothian@yahoo.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:30 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [gothic-l] Killing the Elderly<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4772073109"><div>
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true.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color: transparent;font-style: normal;"><span>Any suggestions or comments?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size: 16px;font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color: transparent;font-style: normal;"><span>Tom</span></div><div class="yiv4772073109yqt9083276959" id="yiv4772073109yqt93205"><div class="yiv4772073109yahoo_quoted"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, January 30, 2014
9:39 AM, OSCAR HERRE <duke.co@sbcglobal.net> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4772073109y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4772073109"><div>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size: 12pt;"><div><span></span></div><div>I was curious about their daily habits ....worship, food and farming,.....shelter for themselves,etc.....</div><div>feasts and drinking such as wine or whatever they did do relieve themselves......<br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="yiv4772073109hr" style="height:0px;font-size:0px;"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> marja erwin <marja-e@riseup.net><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> gothic-l@yahoogroups.com <br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:22 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [gothic-l] Killing the Elderly<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4772073109y_msg_container">
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<div>On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 08:17 -0800, the_lothian@yahoo.com wrote:<br clear="none">
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> I am reading "Barbarian Rites" by Hans-Peter Hasenfratz. In his<br clear="none">
> chapter on Society and its Values he writes<br clear="none">
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> The practice of killing the elderly, which is attested among the<br clear="none">
> eastern and northern Germanic peoples, was probably connected to the<br clear="none">
> idea of sparing "useless mouths" from the fate of a straw death.<br clear="none">
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> The straw-death referring to dying in your bed. <br clear="none">
> Can anyone help me confirm this before I put it into my novel?<br clear="none">
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> Thanks,<br clear="none">
> Tom<br clear="none">
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This is the firs I've heard of it. This would, if true, show up in<br clear="none">
funerary archaeology, so it should be testable.<br clear="none">
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