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<p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span></span></div><div>im thinking he did it around what is now and was a Bulgarian settlement.....was just wondering if there was any of the old frank</div><div>lingo preserved as is gothic.....<br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="height: 0px;font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Weidemyr Basti <setiez@yahoo.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "gothic-l@yahoogroups.com"
<gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 21, 2014 4:37 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [gothic-l] Where did Yulfila produce his bible translation?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><wbr>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size: 12pt;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;font-size: 13px;">Thanks Ingemar and Uppsala for the pdf from the Wulfila-symposium!</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;font-size: small;">Carla Falloumini's report particularly caught my attention as it found many readings common to the gothic and old-latin texts. I have read on a few sites on the Internet, speculation that Yulfila probably produced the translation in Moesia. Are you (anybody on the list) aware of any particular reason to think so?</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;font-size: small;">Another possibility would be if it was produced in Arimium (Rimini) in the years following the council of Arimium 359CE. If so, it may have been a partially critical translation based on manuscripts from both Byzantium and Italy, maybe prompted by a need for goths to be able to use scriptures to refute the trinitarian heresy.</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;font-size: small;">I am reasoning like this: manuscripts have been found in northern Italy, but have any been found in Moesia or Dacia?
(No?)</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;font-size: small;">Do we know of a scribal tradition in Moesia?</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;font-size: small;">Soon after the gothic translation, the work began on the latin Vulgate in 382CE. Wasn't that probably a reaction to the gothic initiative? Would Rome have reacted so fast if the gothic bible was spread in distant Moesia before coming to Italy?</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"></span><br></span></div><div>
</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;font-size: 13px;">And why is there no trace of Paul's letter to the Hebrews? Could it be because it was written in Italy as Post-Nicene Fathers has Eusebius writing: "Paul’s fourteen epistles are well known and undisputed. It is not indeed right to overlook the fact that some have rejected the Epistle to the Hebrews, saying that it is disputed by the church of Rome, on the ground that it was not written by Paul."</span></div><div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 14px;font-style: normal;background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);text-indent: 27.96px;font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-style: normal;background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: rgb(34,
34, 34);text-indent: 27.96px;font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 13px;">What do you think?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-style: normal;background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);text-indent: 27.96px;font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: small;">Regards</span></div><div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-style: normal;background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);text-indent: 27.96px;font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: small;">Basti Weidemyr</span></div><div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 14px;font-style: normal;background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);text-indent: 27.96px;font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div></div>
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