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"Marja Erwin marja-e@riseup.net [gothic-l]" <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com>schreef:<br>
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>It depends on the circumstances? Hypothetically, Gothic-speaking Christian Unitarian Universalists would have very different requirements than Gothic-speaking Catholics.<br>
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>On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:46 AM, roellingua roellingua@gmail.com [gothic-l] <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:<br>
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>> So what is your recommendation for modern services in Gothic. For me personally, using the Gothic language is most important.<br>
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>> "Marja Erwin marja-e@riseup.net [gothic-l]" <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com>schreef:<br>
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>> >As far as creeds go, it seems that there *were* Trinitarian services in Gothic in 5th-century Constantinopolis, as well as the history of non-trinitarian ones. So there probably were Gothic versions of, in reverse chronological order:<br>
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>> >1. Wulfila’s personal creed at the time of his death in 383, which is strongly anti-trinitarian and also strongly subordinationist, which was included in the letter of Auxentius and can be found in Heather and Matthews, the Goths in the Fourth Century, although it has two gaps in the surviving text.<br>
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>> >2. That of Constantinople in 381, which is strongly trinitarian and is widely used with some variations such as the Filioque today.<br>
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>> >3. That of Constantinople in 359, Ariminum, and Seleucia, which focuses on common ground among the opposing sides. Wulfila is believed to have signed on to it.<br>
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