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<p>It should be noted that Proto-Germanic is a theoretical reconstruction based on the later attested Germanic languages. Little can be stated categorically about this earlier unattested linguistic state, above all with regard to word-order, which is its least well understood aspect.<div><br></div><div>In all the early Germanic languages, adjectives could both forego or follow their heads; indeed, this is true of nearly all the attested ancient Indo-European languages. Statistical studies of Old English, Old High German and Old Norse suggest that the pre- rather than than post-nominal position of an attributive adjective was the unmarked or neutral position, and that the post-nominal position was marked, that is, likely emphatic, which is still in part the case in modern English: e.g. 'all things good' versus 'all good things,' with 'good' thrown somewhat into relief in the first example; likewise 'brother mine' versus 'my brother.'</div><div><br></div><div>I doubt very much that 'unsar atta' would have sounded "disrespectful or not good," for there is simply no evidence to support such a claim. All the comparative evidence suggests that both 'atta unsar' and 'unsar atta' were entirely acceptable in Gothic, presumably with a difference in focus.<div><br></div><div>Edmund<br><div><div class="ygroups-quoted"><br><br>---In Gothic-L@yahoogroups.com, <roellingua@...> wrote :<br><br><div id="ygrps-yiv-2108688682"><div dir="ltr">Adjectives could be both prepositioned and postpositioned, and adjectives for family-names were about always postpositioned in Proto-Germanic and therefore most likely Gothic too, therefore: atta unsar, sounded good, while: unsar atta, would have either sounded disrespectful or not good.<br><br><br><br></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-2108688682gmail_extra"><br><div class="ygrps-yiv-2108688682gmail_quote">2015-01-02 23:04 GMT+01:00 <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:write2andy@...">write2andy@...</a> [gothic-l] <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote><span class><blockquote class="ygrps-yiv-2108688682gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><u></u><div style="background-color:#fff;">
<span> </span><div><div><div><p></p><p>Just a comment on the Nicene Creed posted in the link above: that person uses "liuhatha" for the dative singular of "liuhaþ", but it should be "liuhada". I wonder what other mistakes they've made?</p><p>Plus, on their Facebook page, I found they said "Godans Jiulans" when it would be "Jiulins Godans/Godos" or "Jiulins Fahos/Fahans".<br></p><p></p></div><div style="color:#fff;min-height:0;"></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></p>
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