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<p>So, his readings are generally quite well done?<br><br>"edmundfairfax@yahoo.ca [gothic-l]" <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com>schreef:<br><br>
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<p>Dear Roel,</p><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure which features you are referring to here: the division into elements or the presence or absence of an accent over <ai>. As to the former, the separation is to break down the word into its part etymologically: thus "af-airz-jan" says as much as prefix af- + root -airz- + infinitive ending of an i-stem. As to the latter, the acute accent over the 'i' of <ai> indicates that the vowel captured by <ai> does NOT descend from Proto-Germanic /ai/. I cite here a passage from Lambdin's >Introduction to the Gothic Language< (2006, p. xiv) concerning this convention:</div><div><br></div><div>"Since the early years of Indo-European studies it has been a convention in Gothic grammars to indicate the historical distinctions between ai [with acute accent over the 'a'] = PG *ay, the diphthong [ay] as in 'nice', and ai [with acute accent over the 'i'] = PG *i. A third ai, printed with no diacritic, is allegedly found prevocalically in a few words, i.e. saian (to sow), faian (to find fault), waian (to blow), where it corresponds to PG *ae, the [ae] of 'at, sat' but longer. And likewise for au [with acute accent over the 'a'] = PG *aw, the diphthong [aw] in 'house', au [with acute accent over the 'u'] = PG *u and au [no accent] = ?PG *o [long o] or [long u]. We see no need to follow this convention since it implies that each of these digraphs actually had these three different pronunciations in Gothic, for which there is no evidence whatsoever."</div><div><br></div><div>As to Robert Pfeffer's readings, he, of course, follows modern thinking on <ai> and <au> and pronounces them as monothongs. He goes very quickly, but the only thing I would question is his pronunciation of /h/. He pronounces it as 'ch' in German 'Bach, Fach, Buch' etc. The fact that <h> in the Gothic Bible is subject to assimilation (e.g. jah than > jath than) or outright loss suggests, rather, that the <h> was more likely like the 'h' in ModE 'hand, hold' etc. Moreover, he does not attempt apparently to capture a phonemic difference in vowel length, which I am somewhat inclined to think is possibly right, although most Gothic scholars today usually maintain a system wherein there is a meaningful difference in vowel quantity, thus the 'a' in '-hah-', for example, is thought to be twice as long as the 'a' in 'was.'</div><div><br></div><div>Edmund<br class="yui-cursor"><div class="ygroups-quoted"><br><br>---In gothic-l@yahoogroups.com, <roellingua@...> wrote :<br><br><div id="ygrps-yiv-1703867310"><div dir="ltr">Hi Edmund,<div><br></div>abgeben -- einen Teil abgeben: got. afdailjan*<br>abirren: got. afaírzjan 6, af-aírz-jan, sw. V. (1):<div>-- von irdischer Abkunft: got. aírþakunds* 1, aír-þ-a-kun-d-s*,<br>„abscheiden“: got. afskaidan 6, af-skai-d-an,<div><div><br></div><div>What would be the difference in pronunciation and is his assumption correct?<br><div><br></div><div>I also have a question, are these spoken texts in Gothic a correct pronunciation?</div><div><br></div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkYJYrYFVz8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkYJYrYFVz8</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD9WxPVDr_Y">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD9WxPVDr_Y</a><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1703867310gmail_extra"><br><div class="ygrps-yiv-1703867310gmail_quote">2015-02-13 1:20 GMT+01:00 <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:edmundfairfax@...">edmundfairfax@...</a> [gothic-l] <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote><span class><blockquote class="ygrps-yiv-1703867310gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><u></u><div style="background-color:#fff;">
<span> </span><div><div><div><p>Dear Roel,</p><div><br></div><div>You'll need to give me some examples from Koebler in order to be able to answer.</div><div><br></div><div>Audamunds</div><p></p></div><span class="ygrps-yiv-1703867310"><div style="color:#fff;min-height:0;"></div></span></div></div></div></blockquote></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><p></p>
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