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<p><div dir="ltr">That is a good idea Edmund, it makes the poem sound more personal and directed to the God as speaking to him, the 3rd tense is better for describing an abstract God with which one doesn't have any contact.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-02-14 19:29 GMT+01:00 <a href="mailto:edmundfairfax@yahoo.ca">edmundfairfax@yahoo.ca</a> [gothic-l] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;">
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<p>Dear Albareiks,</p><div><br></div><div>One more correction, which slipped my attention. The relative pronoun should be rather 'thuei' ('you who') here rather than 'saei ('he who') since the foregoing clause has a second- rather than third-person antecedent. Cf. "thu hwas is, thuei stojis framathjana skalk?" (Rom14,4) 'who are YOU that pass judgment on an servant of another?'</div><div><br></div><div>I am unaware of any counter-examples wherein a third-person relative pronoun is used with a second-person antecedent. So I believe that this is an obligatory change rather than an optional one.</div><div><br></div><div>This change in turn entails further changes:</div><div><br></div><div>1) The verb-endings will now need to be changed to the second-person sg. as well, thus 'skapjis, bairis, anabiudis.'</div><div><br></div><div>Did you want 'weihaides' (past tense) or 'weihais' (present tense) here? All the other verbs are in the present tense.</div><div><br></div><div>2) "seinamma" and "seinaim" will need to be changed to 'theinamma' and 'theinaim' respectively.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Edmund</div><div><div><br><br>---In <a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>, <medieval_music@...> wrote :<span class><br><br><div><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Dear Audamunds,</span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Your knowledge of the Gothic language is extensive. Are you a professor? With your corrections this work would now read:</span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Thiutheigs thu, frauja guth unsar,
thiudan allaize,</span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;">saei skapjith akrana weinatainis.</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Thiutheigs thu, frauja guth unsar,
thiudan allaize,</span><br></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;">saei bairith hlaibans af airthai.</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Thiutheigs thu, frauja guth unsar,
thiudan allaize,</span><br></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;">saei allos waihtins skapjith waurda
seinamma.</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Thiutheigs thu, frauja guth unsar,
thiudan allaize,</span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;">saei weihaida uns anabusnim seinaim</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;">jah anabiudith uns tandjan liuhada
Sabbato dagis.</p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span style="word-spacing:normal;">Thiutheigs thu, frauja guth unsar,
thiudan allaize,</span><br></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;">saei skapjith liuhath funins. </p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><br></p><p style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Albareiks </p></div></span></div></div><p></p>
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