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<p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>f u johan....</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 2:00 PM, "Johann Dröge anheropl0x@gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8940901592"><div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm checking Köbler and i can't seem to find aiz as meaning anything other than a coin. But it's not that big a deal i suppose. I do have one question though. </div>
<div dir="ltr">I see that wairpan can take the accusative or dative. When i translated one of the lines, i followed a bit more closely to the OHG construction, because OHG has a small instrumental case. "Wileis mik þeinamma gaiza wairpan" as the dative in Gothic also has an instrumental usage. We could even place ana before mik, as suggested by the English-Gothic dictionary <br clear="none">
wairpan, sv. III. +acc. or +dat. - "at" ana +acc;</div>
<div class="yiv8940901592yqt4768862447" id="yiv8940901592yqt77748"><div class="yiv8940901592gmail_quote">On Feb 23, 2015 4:38 PM, "Dicentis a <a href="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com">roellingua@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l]" <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8940901592gmail_quote" style="border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width: 1px;border-left-style: solid;">
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<div dir="ltr">Hello Johan,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks for your help with the translation of the text, my Gothic is not bad but it also isn't that good that I know all grammar by heart. Yes, I ment gais but I use Koeblers dictionary which mentioned aiz too, which isn't a coinage in the sense of completely made up but probably a word from a rune inscription.</div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I contacted the maintainer of Wulfila.be and this is correct, due to attacks at the server of the University of Antwerp the website is temporarily offline and will be up again when they have put up a more secure server. So no, it isn't temporarily offline, but it will take some time, probably a few weeks, before it's online again.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Roel</div></div></div><div class="yiv8940901592gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8940901592gmail_quote">2015-02-23 18:17 GMT+01:00 Johann Dröge <a href="mailto:anheropl0x@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:anheropl0x@gmail.com">anheropl0x@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8940901592gmail_quote" style="border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width: 1px;border-left-style: solid;">
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><span></span><div><span>wileis mis þeinana aiz wairpan<br clear="none"></span></div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">By aiz, did you mean gais?</span> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Aiz is a coin.</span><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span><span>Stautedun<br clear="none"></span></div><span><font color="#000000">If you mean to use the verb stautan, it is a class seven verb. The correct form would then be saistautun</font>. <font color="#000000">Wright mentions that stautan is only used in the present. But I do not know if he means to say it only -occurs- in the present, and the preterite forms are not in the bible.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></font></span></div><span><font color="#000000">By the way, has anyone else noticed that the wulfila project website is down? I can't get to it. I sure hope it's only temporary...<br clear="none"></font></span></div><span><font color="#000000">Here's the link
to try it: <a href="http://www.wulfila.be/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.wulfila.be/</a><br clear="none"></font></span></div>
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